{"id":10522,"date":"2018-10-18T16:00:01","date_gmt":"2018-10-18T14:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/?post_type=b17database&#038;p=10522"},"modified":"2026-04-19T18:35:01","modified_gmt":"2026-04-19T16:35:01","slug":"44-6431-old-folks","status":"publish","type":"b17database","link":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/b17\/44-6431-old-folks\/","title":{"rendered":"44-6431 \/ Old Folks"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Eyewitness Statements to the loss of B-17 #44-6431 \/ Old Folks<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On 25 April 1945, the target for our Group was the Linz South Main Marshalling Yard. We came in on the target at 26200 feet, heading 147\u00b0 true. Flak was moderate but accurate &#8211; especially on Able Box.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bombs were away at 1347 and at 1348 the Pilot (Lt. R. 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I watched for chutes but saw none and to all appearances the pilot had the ship under control. I followed them to the limit of my vision on the left side of our ship and then notified the navigator to follow it from there. The Navigator reported nothing more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>S\/Sgt. William D. Katzing<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>All members of the crew went out their appointed escape routes, with the exception of the radio man, who went out the rear escape door. I found out later that the Ball Gunner and the Navigator were injured when they hit the ground, the navigator landing in a tree and spraining both ankles. The tail gunner&#8217;s chute failed to open when he pulled the rip-cord, but he opened it by ripping open the flap with his hands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After getting the rest of the crew out, I, the pilot, tried to jump but couldn&#8217;t, because of severe flak wounds. Finally, when the plane was but a few hundred feet above the ground, I got out, and was captured immediately. I didn&#8217;t see any members of the crew again until I got back to the United States, when I was told that the German soldiers who captured the rest of the crew, mistreated some of them, kicking one of them about the face and body.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>1Lt. Richard A. Schwarz<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Source: MACR 13988<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Delivered Hunter 3\/8\/44; Dow Fd 15\/8\/44; Assigned 346BS\/99BG Tortorella 11\/9\/44; Missing in Action {51m} Linz 25\/4\/45 with Rich Schwarz, Johnson, Margolis, Arney, Sosnoski, Greenbaum, Early, Bianchi, Freundt, Rice; flak hit #2 ct fire, crashed Linz; nine chutes seen; Missing Air Crew Report 13988. 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