{"id":16037,"date":"2019-11-08T20:00:30","date_gmt":"2019-11-08T19:00:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/?post_type=b17database&#038;p=16037"},"modified":"2025-05-07T15:16:59","modified_gmt":"2025-05-07T13:16:59","slug":"44-6423","status":"publish","type":"b17database","link":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/b17\/44-6423\/","title":{"rendered":"44-6423"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Eyewitness Statements<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>While flying through the overcast, at approximately 1400, I heard Airplane 44-6423 calling Airplane 44-8018, but was apparently unable to contact them. I then called 423 and asked them if I could help them out. Airplane 44-6423 answered me and asked me to give them a call when we changed our heading. I answered and said I would do that. I noticed at the time that we were flying a heading of 210. About five minutes after I had completed the original call to 423, I decided to check on their heading. I made several calls but was unable to raise them. Shortly after that we broke out of the haze into the clear.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When we changed our heading to approximately 190\u00b0 I tried again to contact 423, but without any success. I tried several times after that but was unable to contact them. Since we were then in the clear, and had been for some time, I assumed that they were clear and I didn\u2019t try to establish contact after that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>1Lt. John H. Malkames<br>Pilot of a\/c <a href=\"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/b17\/44-6794-my-rose\/\" data-type=\"b17database\" data-id=\"6307\">4<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/b17\/44-6794-my-rose\/\" data-type=\"b17database\" data-id=\"6307\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">4<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/b17\/44-6794-my-rose\/\" data-type=\"b17database\" data-id=\"6307\">-6794<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>On the bomb run airplane 44-6423 was flying #5 under complete control of pilot and bombs were dropped at the primary (Vienna Lebau) 27,800 feet &#8211; 1257 hours with flak moderate till then. Group rallied left with flak (105 mostly) following us and bracketing us in for five minutes. At that time #423 was about 600 yards back of formation at 5:30 level. At 1313, Squadron and Group changed course north of Bratislava (27,500 ft) to course of 160\u00b0 at which #423 regained #5 position.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At 1317 Group changed course to 189\u00b0 with #423 still in #5, four fans going and showing no evident battle damage. At 1330 north of Gyer, changed to course of 179\u00b0, #423 still ok (22,500 ft). At 1345, just north of West tip of Lake Balaton, Group changed course to 190\u00b0 with #405 dropping out of #4 position due to engine trouble. We in #317 switched from #6 to #4 position.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Airplane 44-6423 was starting to trail a bit behind, maintaining altitude, at this time. They also called #018 and asked advice concerning fuel consumption (their\u2019s was very low) and asked also for a fix. Their oxygen at the time was also down to fifty pounds per square inch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We were at 20,000 feet at 1345. Immediately thereafter, we descended to 18,000, flying thru the feathery haze of the top of the 10\/10 undercast. Airplane #423 had pulled up and to the side at 0300 and was descending also. At 1400 visibility became restricted to 500 to 600 yards and #423 was lost to our view.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Position was the Yugoslavian-Hungarian Border (4608N-1704E) altitude 18,000, course N69\u00b0. Airplane #423 was paralleling our course.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>2Lt. William W. Naumann<br>Navigator of #<a href=\"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/b17\/44-6317\/\" data-type=\"b17database\" data-id=\"15376\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">317<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>At about 1330 I heard airplane 44-6423 calling Airplane 44-8018. The pilot of #423 stated that he was low on oxygen, and intended to let down. At that time he was about a thousand yards behind the formation and gradually falling behind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A short while later #423 again called #018 and asked for a heading. He said he was about ten miles behind the formation. He asked for #018 to notify him when #018 turned so he could also turn. Airplane 44-6423 said that his oxygen was down to about fifty pounds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At that time we were at about 18,000 feet in a gradual let down. Although several attempts were made to contact #423 I never heard him again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>2Lt. 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