{"id":9440,"date":"2018-11-11T18:00:02","date_gmt":"2018-11-11T17:00:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/?post_type=b17database&p=9440"},"modified":"2026-03-15T10:27:05","modified_gmt":"2026-03-15T09:27:05","slug":"44-8143","status":"publish","type":"b17database","link":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/b17\/44-8143\/","title":{"rendered":"44-8143"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

In the book Ghosts of Bad Tolz<\/a><\/em>, written by T. R. McGhee – nephew of Robert M. McGhee Jr – is a very detailed description for the mission on October the 1944.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Remarks from Missing Air Crew Report (MACR) 9516<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

At 1206 hours and at the I.P., the 385th “B” Group, flying High Group in the 4 “B” Combat Wing, peeled off and took its position for the bomb run. At 1207 hours, enemy fighters\u00a0attacked in mass formation from the rear and above, coming out of the clouds. The first attack reduced the Group strength to 2 aircraft (which two is\u00a0undetermined). The fighters then returned and in another mass attack, using the same tactics, shot down the remaining two. Attacks were very aggressive and sudden. Groups ahead report that several aircraft were seen to blow up and spin down. Some chutes were also observed, but due to the confusion and number of aircraft going down it is undetermined from what aircraft the chutes came.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

No exact information of the attack is available because no aircraft of\u00a0the Group concerned returned.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Estimate as to the number of\u00a0enemy aircraft range from 25 to 70 conventional types, presumed to be either Me 109’s or FW 190’s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Further information as it becomes available will be forwarded.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Source: MACR 9516<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Delivered Dallas 23\/6\/44; Langley 26\/7\/44; Dow Fd 13\/8\/44; Assigned 333BS\/94BG Rougham 15\/8\/44; transferred 548BS\/385BG [HR-V] Gt Ashfield 19\/8\/44; Missing in Action Berlin 6\/10\/44 with Capt Jack Batty, Capt Edwin Herron, Mike Galicia, Lou DiNicola, Lt Bill Daniels {mickey op}, Ellwood Maxam, Lt Edgar Griffith {tg}, (7 Killed in Action); enemy aircraft, crashed 3km south of Senzke, Germany [50km west of Berlin]; 7KIA 3POW; Missing Air Crew Report 9516.","protected":false},"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":[],"airplane-status":[136],"status-date":[1090],"status-day":[1875],"status-month":[1849],"status-year":[1892],"production-block":[113],"manufacturer":[144],"delivered":[1817],"project-number":[],"bomb-group":[273,291],"bomb-squadron":[385,379],"raf-service":[],"b17tags":[],"class_list":["post-9440","b17database","type-b17database","status-publish","hentry","airplane-status-lost-by-enemy-aircraft","status-date-06-10-1944","status-day-1875","status-month-october","status-year-1892","production-block-b-17g-50-ve-44-8101-44-8200","manufacturer-lockheed-vega","delivered-dallas","bomb-group-385th-bomb-group","bomb-group-94th-bomb-group","bomb-squadron-333rd-bomb-squadron","bomb-squadron-548th-bomb-squadron"],"translation":{"provider":"WPGlobus","version":"3.0.0","language":"en","enabled_languages":["de","en"],"languages":{"de":{"title":true,"content":true,"excerpt":true},"en":{"title":true,"content":true,"excerpt":true}}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/b17database\/9440","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/b17database"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/b17database"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9440"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9440"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"airplane-status","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/airplane-status?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"status-date","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/status-date?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"status-day","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/status-day?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"status-month","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/status-month?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"status-year","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/status-year?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"production-block","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/production-block?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"manufacturer","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/manufacturer?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"delivered","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/delivered?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"project-number","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/project-number?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"bomb-group","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/bomb-group?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"bomb-squadron","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/bomb-squadron?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"raf-service","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/raf-service?post=9440"},{"taxonomy":"b17tags","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b17flyingfortress.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/b17tags?post=9440"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}