| General | |
|---|---|
| Manufacturer: | Boeing |
| Production-Block: | , B-17G-80-BO: 43-38074 to 43-38273 |
| Delievered: | Cheyenne |
| Operational History | |
|---|---|
| Bomb Group: | , 493rd Bomb Group |
| Bomb Squadron: | , 861st Bomb Squadron, 862nd Bomb Squadron |
| MACR | 10769 |
| KSU/ME/KU: | 3361 |
| Fate: |
, Lost by flak/aa-fire (25 November 1944) |
History of
B-17 43-38232 / Proud Pappy
Delivered Cheyenne 11/7/44; Hunter 20/7/44; Grenier 1/8/44; Assigned 861BS/493BG Debach 3/8/44; 8612BS; Missing in Action Merseburg 25/11/44 with John Miller, Chas Steindorf, Dan Zimmerman, Bob Karlson, Luther Hackman, Bill Ford, Bill Burns (7 Killed in Action); Jose Gonzales, Harry Kellermeyer (2 Prisoner of War); flak, crashed Merseburg, Ger. Missing Air Crew Report 10769. PROUD PAPPY. [Project No. 9471-R ? (See MACR)]
B-17 43-38232 / Proud Pappy Details
Eyewitness Statements and Remarks
Aircraft 232 was last seen by crew members of aircraft 229 at 1152 hours, 26000 feet, shortly after bombs away. Although under control. Aircraft 232 had No. 3 engine feathers and was last seen lagging behind and to the right of the group formation, SSW [South-Souh-West].
Due to gas shortages, eleven aircraft from this group landed at emergency fields in France and Belgium, and it was first believed that aircraft 232 was among these. All returning crews (from France and Belgium) were interrogated for information relative to aircraft 232, but no further information could be obtained.
Source: MACR 10769
B-17 43-38232 / Proud Pappy Crew
| Position | Rank | Name | Status | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| P | 2LT | John M. Miller | KIA | - |
| CP | 2LT | Charles G. Steindorf | KIA | - |
| NAV | 1LT | Daniel M. Zimmerman | KIA | - |
| BOMB | 1LT | Jose E. Gonzales | POW | - |
| ENG/TT | T/SGT | Robert E. Karlson | KIA | - |
| RO | T/SGT | Luther L. Hackman | KIA | - |
| BT | S/SGT | Harold E. Kellermeyer | POW | - |
| WG | S/SGT | William G. Ford | KIA | - |
| TG | S/SGT | William M. Burns | KIA | - |
This page was last updated on 22 January 2026
30. January 2026 access_time 19:52
Crashed Muschwitz.