B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies B-17F

The main difference between the E and F models was the wider propeller blades with which the new model was equipped and which gave it better flight performance. The F model was produced in much larger numbers by three different manufacturers. Minor changes in details were made at each factory. The manufacturer was encoded in a suffix added to the model and block: BO stood for Boeing, VE for Lockheed Vega, and DL for Douglas. This made it clear that an aircraft with the designation “B-17F-50 VE” had been manufactured by Lockheed.

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 'Delta Rebel No. 2' // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 ‘Delta Rebel No. 2’ // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

The B-17F’s arrived in England in August 1942 and were destined to fly throughout 1943. However by the summer of 1944 they were a rare sight on operational bases. The planes were subsequently re-modifed by the idividual bases to cope with the unique problems that com to light in air combat. The aircraft, designed and tested in warmer climes, had to cope with the extremly low temperatures and high humidity of altitude flight. Problems encountered in the first few missions: the brushes in the electrical generators frozen up, the ball turret would not rotate, guns jammed, there was blind spot in the forward zone of fire and the tail was very heavy.

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“To find out at the beginning as us tried as one attacks the B-17 best, tried we bomb to and so on everything, even the bombers bombs. But we found out that the best tactics consisted in attacking her from the front and we used the 190s for it as end of ’43. The time at which you could shoot was very short since the approach-speed was very high. But, when you have hit the B-17 from the front, you have hit the cockpit or the engines mostly. There were only four 190s groups after this time which attacked from behind, which were called the “storm troops”. If the B-17 didn’t burn or the garrison didn’t jump down, then these 190s rammed the bombers at the tail unit or the rudder.”
Walter Krupinski

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Weak point

By November 1942, the Luftwaffe fighter pilots had realized that they could attack a B-17F head-on and be safe from return fire from the actual plane. The fitted 0.30-calibre michine gun in the plexiglass nose was ineffective so individual Bomber Groups decided to replace it with the more destructive 0.50-calibre guns. A nose gun installation kit was provided by 8th Air Force Service Command and the importance of a forward mounted turret on a B-17 was impressed upon the manufacturers. The work on converting the nose turret was very slow and could be only be carried on when the aircraft was free from combat commitments. It was not until May 1943 that B-17F’s with a factory fitted nose gun mount landed in Britain.

“The Germans got to the beginning of the war from the side or behind. But they got for a lot counter-intelligence fire at 25 to 30 B-17s. When they found out that the B-17 had less fire strength in the nose, they changed the tactics. You came in V formations of the front. For us it looked like a line, now and then, however, they came in the inverted V and we shot onto the middle which, however, wasn’t in range yet. At the next trace it was a normal V perhaps again and the middle was nearer than the outer positions. These came toward us with really high speed. You came with 400 miles and we flew 160 and fired her with her 20 mm cannons on the cockpits as soon as we were within range in the hope to meet something. One could see coming the 20 mm and one hoped that they didn’t meet. After the attack they shifted and came back. Only if they found a single machine, they were not effective from the front, they then came back from the side or behind. A machine at which one or two engines had failed was alone put on herself and the guys of the air force took their time to hit the fuel tanks on the two fuselage sides.”
Robert Davila, Pilot der USAAF

“At the beginning only the Fw 190 attacked the bombers and the Bf 109 only was used as escort. Most attacks were flown from the front. If the bombers noticed that the 190s came, they often flew a curve from 10 or 15 degrees. This made it hard to come flying up from the front again.”
Walter Krupinski

Several problems

Ball Turret Gunner

Ball Turret Gunner

The failure of the ball turret was of greater concern on the early models. Apart from the problem with retaion, the oxygen line, throat microphone, and flying suit heater cords all became tangled during normal combat operations. The gunner also feced the risk of running out of oxygen. The bottle contained insufficient oxygen for a normal mission and it was the job of the waist gunner to re-charge the ball turret cylinder but the valve often froze open and supply quickly emptied.

Other Problems included a leaking hydraulic unit, and a turret door that was prone to cracking. Getting out of the turret in an emergency was also a painfully slow procedure. The gunner had to hand-crank the turret in to the correct position, then lift himself out of the hatch and put on a parachute. Needless to say ball turret gunner was the least popular job amoung B-17 crews.

By May 1943, the US VIII Bomber Command had listed a dozen priorities for standard modifications: nose gun fittings, upper turret charging handles, armor plate protection for the pilot’s panel, more ammunitin for the gun in the radio room, an increase in the oxygen supply to all turrets, new radio antennae, Mark III IFF sets, a remote indicating compass and a life-raft realease. there was also a list of less important changes such as bullet proof glass in windows, re-locating waist gun sites for a better field of fire, fitting of GEE and changes to the oxygen system.

The cold conditions the aircraft operated in tended to freeze the bomb bay doors and the bomb shackles. In early missions this problem was overcome by one of the crew using a crow bar on on the frozen mechanism. Experienced crews would test the bomb bay door operation before they were on the bomb run.

Nothing could be done to stop the plane from being tail heavy but crews were warned about storing equipment and ammunition near the rear.

Another cause for condern was the ability of the waist gunners to inadvertently fire into the wing and tail. In July 1943 an electrical cut off system was fitted which automaticlly stopped the gun firing pins if the gun was aimed at any part of the plane.

One of the most important changes in the development of the B-17F was the addition of extra fuel tanks giving the plane another 1080 US gallons. effectively, this increased the B-17F’s range by 1000 miles and the operational radius doubled to 650 miles. The extra fuel units were called “Tokyo Tanks” (supposedly adding enough range so that a B-17 could get to Tokyo from a carrier in the Pacific) and were made up of nine rubber self-sealing cells placed betwenn of ribs of both wings. These long-range versions first appeared at English bases in May 1943.

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Random B-17F from database

B-17 #42-29935 / Pulmadique aka The Cat’s Sass

42-29935 / Pulmadique aka The Cat’s Sass

Delivered Cheyenne 15/3/43; Smoky Hill 26/3/43; Dow Fd 10/4/43; Assigned: 413BS/96BG Grafton Underwood 27/4/43; Andrews Fd 13/5/43; Snetterton 12/6/43; Transferred: 546BS/384BG [BK-K] Grafton Underwood 14/8/43; MIA Bremen 20/12/43 Pilot: Jim Carnes, Co-Pilot: Bill Parsons, Navigator: Bob Pue, Bombardier: Jacob Kahn, Engineer / Top Turret Gunner: Mark Meyer, Ball Turret Gunner: Frank Doss, Waist Gunner: Bill Tragellas, Waist Gunner: Marvin McLain, Tail Gunner: Jerry Crow (9POW), Radio Operator: Bob Wetherbee (KIA); crew’s first mission, ran out of gas & ditched North Sea. MACR 1725. THE CAT’S SASS.

B-17 #41-24537 / Talisman aka USA-SOS War Horse

41-24537 / Talisman aka USA-SOS War Horse

Delivered Cheyenne 2/8/42; Hamilton 4/9/42; Assigned 63BS/43BG Mareeba, Aus 10/9/42 as TALISMAN; Iron Range, Aus 17/10/42; Milne Bay, NG 23/11/42; Mareeba, Aus 21/1/43; Port Moresby, PNG 11/5/43; with J.H. Powell had landing accident at Jackson Fd 24/4/43; Assigned Gen McArthur aboard to watch 503rd Parachute invasion of Nadzab, PNG 5/9/43; when W/W used as hack by Maj Gen J. L. Frink, Supply CO of SW Pacific; sal Tacloban, Leyte 9/9/45. USASOS WAR-HORSE.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-6190

42-6190

Delivered Long Beach 17/8/43; 356 Sub Dep Dalhart 17/10/43; 232 BU Dalhart 9/6/44; 421 BU Muroc 15/7/44; 232 BU Dalhart 3/12/44; 357 BU Kellogg 29/12/44; 246 BU Pratt 23/1/45; 902 BU Orlando 17/5/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Altus 9/10/45.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30588

42-30588

Delivered Cheyenne 24/6/43; Walla Walla 7/7/43; Madras 15/7/43; Redmond 17/7/43; with Bill Kelley crash landed base 18/7/43; Written off 20/7/43.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30156

42-30156

Delivered Cheyenne 17/4/43; Smoky Hill 24/4/43; Presque Is 16/5/43; Assigned 423BS/306BG [RD-Z] Thurleigh 22/6/43; Missing in Action Hanover 26/7/43 with Wes Courson, Co-pilot: Roy Bronson, Navigator: Ted Grezlak, Bombardier: Henry Lynch, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: John Champion, Waist gunner: Cedric White,Tail gunner: Bill Lamb (7 Prisoner of War); Radio Operator: Bill Dayton, Ball turret gunner: Dock Thomas, Waist gunner: Bob Stevens{wia & drowned in River Ems} (3 Killed in Action); flak over Frisian Is took off vertical stabiliser, crashed Hofkamp Farm, Vriescheloo, Hol. Missing Air Crew Report 127.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30924

42-30924

Delivered Cheyenne 23/8/43; 2117 BU Buckingham 3/7/44; 35601 BU Boca Raton 16/7/44; 3505 BU Scott 20/1/45; 3539 BU Langley 28/12/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Walnut Ridge 3/1/46.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30428 / Touchy Goose

42-30428 / Touchy Goose

Delivered Cheyenne 30/5/43; Assigned 429BS/2BG Massicault 6/8/43; {24m} transferred 32BS/301BG Oudna 14/11/43; Cerignola 7/12/43; Lucera 1/2/44; Missing in Action {29m} Regensburg 25/2/44 with Bill Epps, Co-pilot: Palmer, Navigator: Meyer, Bombardier: Capiello, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Feist, Radio Operator: Nix, Ball turret gunner: Seaver, Waist gunner: Stoneman,Tail gunner: Odegard (9 Prisoner of War); enemy aircraft, crashed Krakaudorf, Ger; Missing Air Crew Report 2591. TOUCHY GOOSE.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-29946

42-29946

Delivered Cheyenne 15/3/43; Gore 16/3/43; Cheyenne 22/3/43; Walla Walla 2/4/43; Metropolitan 13/4/43; Assigned 525BS/379BG Kimbolton 4/5/43; Missing in Action Huls 22/6/43 with Capt Erskine Dollarhide, Navigator: Nathan Egnor, Bombardier: Frank Wacha, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Earl Boies, Radio Operator: Leon Berger, Tail gunner: Jim McLaughlin (baled out but died on the ground): 6 Killed in Action; Co-pilot: Walt Nachtway, Ball turret gunner: Henry Hoehn, Waist gunner: Gerald Erdahl, Waist gunner: Lloyd Donelson (4 Prisoner of War); enemy aircraft & flak, crashed Mussum, four miles SW of Bocholt, Ger. Missing Air Crew Report 1294.

B-17 #41-24591 / Rigor Mortis

41-24591 / Rigor Mortis

Assigned 366BS/305BG [KY-B] Presque Is 20/10/42; Grafton Underwood 29/10/42; Missing in Action Stuttgart 6/9/43 with Ray Halliday, Navigator: Bob Curtis, Bombardier: Clarry Veach, Radio Operator: Joe McKegney (4 Prisoner of War) Co-pilot: Russ Brooke, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Tom Shaver, Waist gunner: Alf Jawerewski, Waist gunner: Tony Marandola, Tail gunner: Duane Lawhead (5 evaded capture), Ball turret gunner: Steve Dorko (Killed in Action); mech failure, crashed Buchy, 19 miles SE of Dieppe, Fr. Missing Air Crew Report 1344 & 2155. RIGOR MORTIS.

B-17 #41-24571 / Indianapolis War Bird

41-24571 / Indianapolis War Bird

Assigned 323BS/91BG Bangor 14/9/42; West Palm Beach 24/11/42; transferred MTO 97BG Biskra, Alg. 1/43; 49BS/2BG 14/11/3; Massicault, Tun 14/11/43; Missing in Action Steyr, Aus. 24/2/44 with Harry Meyer, Co-pilot: Ralph Sneedon, Navigator: John McTeague, Bombardier: Ralph Karsh, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Ben Hughes, Radio Operator: Kinnon Taylor, Waist gunner: Lawrence Dunn (7 Prisoner of War); Ball turret gunner: Edwin Jackson, Waist gunner: Webb Digh,Tail gunner: John McMullin (3KIA, buried in forest near Moosbach, Austria); s/d, no chutes seen, crashed near Hocheck. Missing Air Crew Report 2619. INDIANAPOLIS WAR BIRD.

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