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Delivered Denver 3/6/43; 3030 BU Roswell 6/11/43; 3010 BU Williams 12/12/43; 3020 BU La Junta 29/3/44; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Kingman 31/7/45.
The main difference between the E and F models was the wider propeller blades with which the new model was equipped and which gave it better flight performance. The F model was produced in much larger numbers by three different manufacturers. Minor changes in details were made at each factory. The manufacturer was encoded in a suffix added to the model and block: BO stood for Boeing, VE for Lockheed Vega, and DL for Douglas. This made it clear that an aircraft with the designation “B-17F-50 VE” had been manufactured by Lockheed.
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“To find out at the beginning as us tried as one attacks the B-17 best, tried we bomb to and so on everything, even the bombers bombs. But we found out that the best tactics consisted in attacking her from the front and we used the 190s for it as end of ’43. The time at which you could shoot was very short since the approach-speed was very high. But, when you have hit the B-17 from the front, you have hit the cockpit or the engines mostly. There were only four 190s groups after this time which attacked from behind, which were called the “storm troops”. If the B-17 didn’t burn or the garrison didn’t jump down, then these 190s rammed the bombers at the tail unit or the rudder.”
Walter Krupinski
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By November 1942, the Luftwaffe fighter pilots had realized that they could attack a B-17F head-on and be safe from return fire from the actual plane. The fitted 0.30-calibre michine gun in the plexiglass nose was ineffective so individual Bomber Groups decided to replace it with the more destructive 0.50-calibre guns. A nose gun installation kit was provided by 8th Air Force Service Command and the importance of a forward mounted turret on a B-17 was impressed upon the manufacturers. The work on converting the nose turret was very slow and could be only be carried on when the aircraft was free from combat commitments. It was not until May 1943 that B-17F’s with a factory fitted nose gun mount landed in Britain.
“The Germans got to the beginning of the war from the side or behind. But they got for a lot counter-intelligence fire at 25 to 30 B-17s. When they found out that the B-17 had less fire strength in the nose, they changed the tactics. You came in V formations of the front. For us it looked like a line, now and then, however, they came in the inverted V and we shot onto the middle which, however, wasn’t in range yet. At the next trace it was a normal V perhaps again and the middle was nearer than the outer positions. These came toward us with really high speed. You came with 400 miles and we flew 160 and fired her with her 20 mm cannons on the cockpits as soon as we were within range in the hope to meet something. One could see coming the 20 mm and one hoped that they didn’t meet. After the attack they shifted and came back. Only if they found a single machine, they were not effective from the front, they then came back from the side or behind. A machine at which one or two engines had failed was alone put on herself and the guys of the air force took their time to hit the fuel tanks on the two fuselage sides.”
Robert Davila, Pilot der USAAF

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“At the beginning only the Fw 190 attacked the bombers and the Bf 109 only was used as escort. Most attacks were flown from the front. If the bombers noticed that the 190s came, they often flew a curve from 10 or 15 degrees. This made it hard to come flying up from the front again.”
Walter Krupinski

Ball Turret Gunner
The failure of the ball turret was of greater concern on the early models. Apart from the problem with retaion, the oxygen line, throat microphone, and flying suit heater cords all became tangled during normal combat operations. The gunner also feced the risk of running out of oxygen. The bottle contained insufficient oxygen for a normal mission and it was the job of the waist gunner to re-charge the ball turret cylinder but the valve often froze open and supply quickly emptied.
Other Problems included a leaking hydraulic unit, and a turret door that was prone to cracking. Getting out of the turret in an emergency was also a painfully slow procedure. The gunner had to hand-crank the turret in to the correct position, then lift himself out of the hatch and put on a parachute. Needless to say ball turret gunner was the least popular job amoung B-17 crews.
By May 1943, the US VIII Bomber Command had listed a dozen priorities for standard modifications: nose gun fittings, upper turret charging handles, armor plate protection for the pilot’s panel, more ammunitin for the gun in the radio room, an increase in the oxygen supply to all turrets, new radio antennae, Mark III IFF sets, a remote indicating compass and a life-raft realease. there was also a list of less important changes such as bullet proof glass in windows, re-locating waist gun sites for a better field of fire, fitting of GEE and changes to the oxygen system.
The cold conditions the aircraft operated in tended to freeze the bomb bay doors and the bomb shackles. In early missions this problem was overcome by one of the crew using a crow bar on on the frozen mechanism. Experienced crews would test the bomb bay door operation before they were on the bomb run.
Nothing could be done to stop the plane from being tail heavy but crews were warned about storing equipment and ammunition near the rear.
Another cause for condern was the ability of the waist gunners to inadvertently fire into the wing and tail. In July 1943 an electrical cut off system was fitted which automaticlly stopped the gun firing pins if the gun was aimed at any part of the plane.
One of the most important changes in the development of the B-17F was the addition of extra fuel tanks giving the plane another 1080 US gallons. effectively, this increased the B-17F’s range by 1000 miles and the operational radius doubled to 650 miles. The extra fuel units were called “Tokyo Tanks” (supposedly adding enough range so that a B-17 could get to Tokyo from a carrier in the Pacific) and were made up of nine rubber self-sealing cells placed betwenn of ribs of both wings. These long-range versions first appeared at English bases in May 1943.
Delivered Denver 3/6/43; 3030 BU Roswell 6/11/43; 3010 BU Williams 12/12/43; 3020 BU La Junta 29/3/44; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Kingman 31/7/45.
Delivered Cheyenne 31/8/43; 2114 BU Lockbourn 21/10/44; 2003 BU Fort Worth 8/1/45; 2114 BU Lockbourn 21/9/45; 2100 BU Maxwell 28/9/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Walnut Ridge 7/1/46.
Delivered Dallas 5/8/43; Gore 6/8/43; Dallas 10/8/43; 19BG Pyote 9/11/43; 271 BU Kearney 15/6/44; with H. M. Locker force landed 4136 BU Tinker 22/9/44; 271 BU Kearney 9/1/45; 2519 BU Fort Worth 8/6/45; 271 BU Kearney 22/7/45; 485 BU Kearney 29/7/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Kingman 16/11/45.
Delivered Denver 20/4/43; Dow Field 13/6/43; Assigned 550BS/385BG [SG-G] Gt Ashfield 16/6/43; transferred 549BS landing accident at base with Ed Stone 28/7/43; Missing in Action Merignac 5/12/43 with Novo Maryonovich, Co-pilot: Bill Flagler, Navigator: Gerhard Kirschke, Bombardier: Francis Stetson, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Hugh Bradford, Radio Operator: Edwin Johnson, Ball turret gunner: Gordon Akley, Waist gunner: Tom Armstrong, Waist gunner: Carl Williams,Tail gunner: Ed McMillan (10INT); battle damaged ditched Atlantic off Portugal, all rescued and returned to UK via British Embassy knowhow, calling the crew ‘shipwrecked mariners!. Missing Air Crew Report 1338; SUZANNE.
Delivered Cheyenne 8/10/42; West Palm Beach 15/12/42; Assigned 342BS/97BG Biskra 3/1/43; Chateau-du-Rhumel 3/2/43; Pont-du-Fahs 1/8/43; Depienne 15/8/43; Missing in Action Levento 9/12/43 with ?, crew saved. PEGGY.
Delivered Cheyenne 23/6/43; Assigned 582BS/393BG Kearney 26/7/43; crash landed base 6/8/43 with Homer Fitzer; Written off 9/8/43.
Delivered Cheyenne 13/12/42; Casper 11/1/43; Scotts Bluff 8/3/43; Sioux City 20/6/43; Casper 15/5/43; Scribner 19/7/43; Kearney 3/8/43; 4136 BU Tinker 14/6/44; 202 BU Galveston 21/6/44; 233 BU Davis Monthan 13/10/44; 225 BU Rapid City 23/2/45; 4202 BU Syracuse 27/3/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Altus 5/11/45.
Delivered Cheyenne 25/5/43; Kearney 5/6/43; Gore 7/6/43; Tinker 9/6/43; Dalhart 27/6/43; Gr Isle 27/6/43; Presque Is 3/8/43; Assigned 326BS/92BG [JW-F/A] Alconbury 21/8/43; Missing in Action Schweinfurt 14/10/43 with Major George Ott, Co-pilot: George Long, Navigator: Malcolm Champagne, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Ray Hottenstein, Radio Operator: Dick Spellerberg, Ball turret gunner: John Benson, Waist gunner: Harry Clark, Waist gunner: Joe Pribish,Tail gunner: Jim Proakis{died in camp 3/12/43} (9 Prisoner of War), Bombardier: Jerome Tiger (Killed in Action); enemy aircraft, crashed Flurabteilung Kastellerweg, near Markt Bibart, 22 miles SE of Wurtzburg, Ger. Missing Air Crew Report 849.
Delivered to Cheyenne 15/4/43; Smoky Hill 25/4/43; Sioux City 30/4/43; Kearney 6/5/43; Tinker 22/5/43; Kearney 26/5/43; Dow Fd 29/5/43; Assigned 545Bomb Squadron/384Bomb Group [JD-O] Station 106, Grafton Underwood on 14 June 1943; Missing in Action on a mission to Schweinfurt 17 August 1943 with Oliver Sweningsen, Co-pilot: Carlos P. Stewart, Navigator: Robert M. Koening, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Wallace B. Dawson, Radio Operator: Joseph S. Barta, Ball turret gunner: Leon Svirsky, Waist gunner: Alfred Meyer,Tail gunner: Charles F. Tate Jr. (8 Prisoner of War), Bombardier: Victor T. Kelly, Waist gunner: Richard S. Grover (2 Killed in Action); flak & enemy aircraft, crashed at Stangenroth, six miles Northwest of Bad Kissingen, Germany; Missing Air Crew Report 294. SNUFFY.
Delivered Cheyenne 18/6/43; Roswell 25/6/43; Hobbs 7/7/43; Roswell 3/8/43; 3030 BU Roswell 2/6/44; 3017 BU Hobbs 28/4/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Altus 30/8/45.