B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies B-17F

The main difference between the E and F models was the wider propeller blades with which the new model was equipped and which gave it better flight performance. The F model was produced in much larger numbers by three different manufacturers. Minor changes in details were made at each factory. The manufacturer was encoded in a suffix added to the model and block: BO stood for Boeing, VE for Lockheed Vega, and DL for Douglas. This made it clear that an aircraft with the designation “B-17F-50 VE” had been manufactured by Lockheed.

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 'Delta Rebel No. 2' // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 ‘Delta Rebel No. 2’ // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

The B-17F’s arrived in England in August 1942 and were destined to fly throughout 1943. However by the summer of 1944 they were a rare sight on operational bases. The planes were subsequently re-modifed by the idividual bases to cope with the unique problems that com to light in air combat. The aircraft, designed and tested in warmer climes, had to cope with the extremly low temperatures and high humidity of altitude flight. Problems encountered in the first few missions: the brushes in the electrical generators frozen up, the ball turret would not rotate, guns jammed, there was blind spot in the forward zone of fire and the tail was very heavy.

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“To find out at the beginning as us tried as one attacks the B-17 best, tried we bomb to and so on everything, even the bombers bombs. But we found out that the best tactics consisted in attacking her from the front and we used the 190s for it as end of ’43. The time at which you could shoot was very short since the approach-speed was very high. But, when you have hit the B-17 from the front, you have hit the cockpit or the engines mostly. There were only four 190s groups after this time which attacked from behind, which were called the “storm troops”. If the B-17 didn’t burn or the garrison didn’t jump down, then these 190s rammed the bombers at the tail unit or the rudder.”
Walter Krupinski

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Weak point

By November 1942, the Luftwaffe fighter pilots had realized that they could attack a B-17F head-on and be safe from return fire from the actual plane. The fitted 0.30-calibre michine gun in the plexiglass nose was ineffective so individual Bomber Groups decided to replace it with the more destructive 0.50-calibre guns. A nose gun installation kit was provided by 8th Air Force Service Command and the importance of a forward mounted turret on a B-17 was impressed upon the manufacturers. The work on converting the nose turret was very slow and could be only be carried on when the aircraft was free from combat commitments. It was not until May 1943 that B-17F’s with a factory fitted nose gun mount landed in Britain.

“The Germans got to the beginning of the war from the side or behind. But they got for a lot counter-intelligence fire at 25 to 30 B-17s. When they found out that the B-17 had less fire strength in the nose, they changed the tactics. You came in V formations of the front. For us it looked like a line, now and then, however, they came in the inverted V and we shot onto the middle which, however, wasn’t in range yet. At the next trace it was a normal V perhaps again and the middle was nearer than the outer positions. These came toward us with really high speed. You came with 400 miles and we flew 160 and fired her with her 20 mm cannons on the cockpits as soon as we were within range in the hope to meet something. One could see coming the 20 mm and one hoped that they didn’t meet. After the attack they shifted and came back. Only if they found a single machine, they were not effective from the front, they then came back from the side or behind. A machine at which one or two engines had failed was alone put on herself and the guys of the air force took their time to hit the fuel tanks on the two fuselage sides.”
Robert Davila, Pilot der USAAF

“At the beginning only the Fw 190 attacked the bombers and the Bf 109 only was used as escort. Most attacks were flown from the front. If the bombers noticed that the 190s came, they often flew a curve from 10 or 15 degrees. This made it hard to come flying up from the front again.”
Walter Krupinski

Several problems

Ball Turret Gunner

Ball Turret Gunner

The failure of the ball turret was of greater concern on the early models. Apart from the problem with retaion, the oxygen line, throat microphone, and flying suit heater cords all became tangled during normal combat operations. The gunner also feced the risk of running out of oxygen. The bottle contained insufficient oxygen for a normal mission and it was the job of the waist gunner to re-charge the ball turret cylinder but the valve often froze open and supply quickly emptied.

Other Problems included a leaking hydraulic unit, and a turret door that was prone to cracking. Getting out of the turret in an emergency was also a painfully slow procedure. The gunner had to hand-crank the turret in to the correct position, then lift himself out of the hatch and put on a parachute. Needless to say ball turret gunner was the least popular job amoung B-17 crews.

By May 1943, the US VIII Bomber Command had listed a dozen priorities for standard modifications: nose gun fittings, upper turret charging handles, armor plate protection for the pilot’s panel, more ammunitin for the gun in the radio room, an increase in the oxygen supply to all turrets, new radio antennae, Mark III IFF sets, a remote indicating compass and a life-raft realease. there was also a list of less important changes such as bullet proof glass in windows, re-locating waist gun sites for a better field of fire, fitting of GEE and changes to the oxygen system.

The cold conditions the aircraft operated in tended to freeze the bomb bay doors and the bomb shackles. In early missions this problem was overcome by one of the crew using a crow bar on on the frozen mechanism. Experienced crews would test the bomb bay door operation before they were on the bomb run.

Nothing could be done to stop the plane from being tail heavy but crews were warned about storing equipment and ammunition near the rear.

Another cause for condern was the ability of the waist gunners to inadvertently fire into the wing and tail. In July 1943 an electrical cut off system was fitted which automaticlly stopped the gun firing pins if the gun was aimed at any part of the plane.

One of the most important changes in the development of the B-17F was the addition of extra fuel tanks giving the plane another 1080 US gallons. effectively, this increased the B-17F’s range by 1000 miles and the operational radius doubled to 650 miles. The extra fuel units were called “Tokyo Tanks” (supposedly adding enough range so that a B-17 could get to Tokyo from a carrier in the Pacific) and were made up of nine rubber self-sealing cells placed betwenn of ribs of both wings. These long-range versions first appeared at English bases in May 1943.

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Random B-17F from database

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-5152

42-5152

Delivered Cheyenne 2/20/42; Assigned 526BS/379BG Wendover 15/12/42; t/o for navigation exercise but met bad weather and crashed into East Humbolt Mts near Elko, Nv on 2/1/43: with Cyril Casey, Ray Hochheimer, Cliff Elliott, Art Kelly, Mike DiSalvo, Alex Johnson, Seymour Sonkin, Byron Olson, Lowell Stoner, Jim Karnspon all Killed in Service . Written off 12/1/43, but not found until 24/6/43.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30519

42-30519

Delivered Cheyenne 15/6/43; Roswell 24/6/43; 3030 BU Roswell 2/6/44; 3010 BU Williams 10/12/44; with Bill Peterson 22/1/45; Recl Comp 10/3/45.

B-17 #42-30678

42-30678

Delivered Dallas 10/7/43; Dow Fd 28/7/43; Kearney 6/8/43; Topeka 12/8/43; Scott 17/8/43; Assigned: 366BS/305BG [KY-B] Chelveston 6/9/43; MIA Augsburg 25/2/44 Pilot: Bob Safranek, Co-Pilot: Capt George Richard, Navigator: Milton Stammann, Bombardier: Harry Hill, Radio Operator: Herb Johnson, Waist Gunner: Bernie Beese, Waist Gunner: Henry Cunningham (7POW); Engineer / Top Turret Gunner: Elvin Cox, Ball Turret Gunner: Roy Courtright, Tail Gunner: Vern Barnett (3KIA); flak, crashed Neresheim, N of Stuttgart, Germany. MACR 2765.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30375 / Yo-Yo

42-30375 / Yo-Yo

Delivered Cheyenne 24/5/43; Gore 25/5/43; Kearney 5/6/43; Dalhart 27/6/43; Gr Isle 26/7/43; Pilot: Gordon Crozier forced landing Geiger 29/7/43; Patterson 8/8/43; Gr Isle 11/8/43; Presque Is 16/8/43; Assigned: 365BS/305BG [XK-B] Chelveston 3/9/43; Transferred: 1 BAD Burtonwood 20/5/44; Returned to US: 8STA Homestead 24/7/44; 4136 BU Tinker 25/7/44; Recl Comp 17/7/45. MISS DONNA MAE.

B-17 #42-6153 / Good Pickin

42-6153 / Good Pickin

Delivered Long Beach 7/8/43; Pyote 8/8/43; used by 452BG and 100BG for training; 232 BU Dalhart 26/8/44; 235 BU Biggs 31/10/44; 2318 BU Alamogordo 8/1/45; 235 BU Biggs 10/1/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Kingman 30/10/45. GOOD PICKIN’.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-3288 / Green Fury II

42-3288 / Green Fury II

Delivered Denver 24/4/43; Dow Fd 4/6/43; Assigned 338BS/96BG [BX-B] Snetterton 12/6/43; Missing in Action Bremen 20/12/43 with Stan Budleski, Co-pilot: Bernie Jackson, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Jim Thompson, Radio Operator: Marco Coolum, Ball turret gunner: Melvin Brunner,Tail gunner: George Smith (6 Killed in Action); Navigator: John Coyle, Bombardier: Don Spanier, eg-Don Totz, Waist gunner: Joe McDonald (4 Prisoner of War); enemy aircraft, crashed near coastal radio station Nordeney Is, Ger; Missing Air Crew Report 1704. GREEN FURY II.

B-17 #41-24488 / Banshee

41-24488 / Banshee

Assigned 369BS/306BG [WW-F] Westover 30/8/42; Thurleigh 13/10/42; (tran 367BS [GY-F]); Missing in Action Bremen 17/4/43 with Capt Bill Casey, Co-pilot: Ed O’Brien, Navigator: Bill Owens, Bombardier: Jim McCracken, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Wilson Elliott (5 Prisoner of War), Radio Operator: Lewis Ayscue, Ball turret gunner: Joe Borzym, Waist gunner: Morris Gecowets, Waist gunner: Frank Stetler,Tail gunner: Chas Raidline (5 Killed in Action); enemy aircraft KO’d three engines, crashed dyke near Greetsiel, Ger.; Missing Air Crew Report 15445. BANSHEE II.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-5709

42-5709

Delivered Cheyenne 13/8/42; Wayne 6/11/42; Smoky Hill 29/3/43; 236 BU Pyote 13/7/44; 235 BU Biggs 16/8/44; 231 BU Alamogordo 13/12/44; 4202 BU Syracuse 28/3/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Walnut Ridge 10/10/45.

B-17 #42-30009 / Feather Merchant

42-30009 / Feather Merchant

Delivered Cheyenne 25/3/43; Pueblo 8/4/43; Hobbs 6/5/43; Presque Is 21/5/43; Dow Fd 23/5/43; Assigned: 532BS/381BG [VE-G] Ridgewell 25/5/43 Pilot: Leo Jarvis, Gene Mancinelli, Dick Riley, Bill Lockhart, Harry Seymore, Warren Heintz, Harry Strecher, Chas Persinger, Gene Roehl, Herman Grossman; MIA {5m} Bremen 8/10/43 w/Jack Pry, Co-Pilot: Cecil Quinley, Navigator: Roger Burwell, Bombardier: Theo Snyder, Engineer / Top Turret Gunner: Ed LaPointe, Radio Operator: Russ Frauschti, Waist Gunner: Carl Baird, Tail Gunner: Martin Brandt (8POW), Ball Turret Gunner: Irvin Smith, Waist Gunner: Alf Johnson (2KIA); Enemy aircraft, crashed Hagewede-Brockum, 10 miles S of Diepholz, Germany. MACR 1397. FEATHER MERCHANT.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30975

42-30975

Delivered Dallas 27/8/43; 221 BU Alexandra 17/1/45; 329 BU Alexandra 20/5/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Altus 9/10/45.