Production-block:
B-17F-35-VE: 42-5905 to 42-5954
Manufacturer:
Lockheed/Vega
- Bomb Group:
- 301st Bomb Group
- Bomb Squadron:
- 419th Bomb Squadron
MACR: 767
History of
B-17 42-5949
Delivered Long Beach 28/5/43; Cheyenne 7/6/43; Gd Isle 29/6/43; Dow 18/7/43; Assigned 419BS/301BG Oudna 13/8/43; Missing in Action {15m} Bolzano 25/9/43 with Ed Stapleton, Co-pilot: Robert G. Marner, Navigator: Max Doyle, Bombardier: Jim Fitzgerald, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Ed Gehrt, Radio Operator: Ray Wagner, Ball turret gunner: John Ball, Waist gunner: Oscar Daniels, Waist gunner: Teddy May,Tail gunner: John Dygnan (10 Killed in Action). Missing Air Crew Report 767.
Last updated: 20. June 2021
B-17 42-5949 Details
Statements to the loss of B-17 #42-5949
The last I saw of 42-5949 was on our way through the overcast. It was on our right wing for about three minutes and then I lost it entirely in the heady clouds.
T/Sgt. Henry S. Brenzo
Radio Operator
I last saw 42-5949 for about five minutes while we are in the overcast. When he was about 150 yards he flew from five o’clock to seven o’clock. It was my impression at this time that he saw us and turned away. I then lost sight of the plane.
While right about over Leghorn I once saw a B-17 flying through intense medium flak, but I was unable to distinguish the number of the plane. However when I last saw it it was headed northwest from Leghorn and seemed to be all right.
S/Sgt. Vincent S. Jakubczak
Tail Gunner
The last time I saw 42-5949 it was on your right wing. As soon as we hit the overcast he peeled off and disappeared in the clouds.
S/Sgt. Jerald E. Tate
Tail Gunner
Flying in position 13 in plane 42-30341, we were in constant visual contact with plane 42-5949, which was in position 12. After leaving the target, the formation entered a heavy cloud overcast. The last I saw of ’49’ it was diving down, though apparently in good condition and under control. We sighted no other plane after that until we were within 180 miles of the African coast.
S/Sgt. Solomon J. Cross
Radio Operator
Source: MACR 767
B-17 42-5949 Crew
Position | Rank | Name | Status | Note |
---|---|---|---|---|
P | 1LT | Edward F. Stapleton | KIA | - |
CP | 2LT | Robert George Marner | KIA | - |
NAV | 2LT | James R. Fitzgerald | KIA | - |
BOMB | 2LT | Max E. Doyle | KIA | - |
ENG/TT | S/SGT | Edward G. Gehrt | KIA | - |
RO | SGT | Raymond D. Wagner | KIA | - |
BT | SGT | Teddy E. Ray | KIA | - |
WG | SGT | Oscar J. R. Daniels | KIA | - |
WG | SGT | John S. Dygnan | KIA | - |
TG | SGT | John L. Ball | KIA | - |
20. June 2021 access_time 13:52
macr 767 copilot error: Marner, not Warner. Robert (Bob) George Marner was my great uncle. please correct, thanks!
20. June 2021 access_time 14:16
Thank you! I have updated your great uncles name and added statements to the loss.
20. June 2021 access_time 15:13
how can i get more info on my great uncle Robert G. Marner, copilot of B-17 42-5949 MACR 767?
20. June 2021 access_time 16:54
Hello Mari,
I only have a copy of the MACR files.
Do you want to have a copy?
20. June 2021 access_time 17:02
yes, please – but since he was mis-identified as bob Warner (not Marner), there is not info on him. I wondered how to find out more…
20. June 2021 access_time 17:12
I have sent you an email with the download url to the files.
20. June 2021 access_time 17:21
Mari, I found this data sheet:
https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=2&cat=all&tf=F&q=robert+marner&bc=&rpp=10&pg=1&rid=472547&rlst=4195115,472547
20. June 2021 access_time 18:00
thanks! he joined Royal Canadian Air Force because he wanted to fly but didn’t have a college degree. Why doesn’t Army serial number match crew serial number? any more sources of info? his MIA status caused family so much pain & heartache so my mother didn’t speak much of her brother. thanks!
20. June 2021 access_time 18:46
Hello Mari, the page I have posted shows his rans as Coporal. Maybe enlisted ranks have other Army numbers, because he was 2Lt when he MIA. Officers has an O (or Zero/0) as prefix in their army numbers