Source:
www.fold3.com
| General | |
|---|---|
| Manufacturer: | Douglas |
| Production-Block: | , B-17G-25-DL: 42-37989 to 42-38083 |
| Operational History | |
|---|---|
| Bomb Group: | , 303rd Bomb Group |
| Bomb Squadron: | , 427th Bomb Squadron |
| RCL | GN-P |
| MACR | 6739 |
| KSU/ME/KU: | 2388 |
| Fate: |
, Lost by flak/aa-fire (29 June 1944) |
| Missions: | 41 |
History of
B-17 42-38051 / My Yorkshire Dream
Delivered Cheyenne 25/11/43;Romulus 15/12/43; Presque Is 18/12/43;ass 427BS/303BG [GN-P] Molesworth 13/1/44; Missing in Action (41m) Leipzig 29/6/44 with Arnold Roy, Co-pilot: Ralph Quint, Navigator: Henry Rafferty, Bombardier: Leon Weiss, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Leon Cook, Radio Operator: George Johnson, Waist gunner: Chan K On,Tail gunner: Olaf Kahnert (8 Killed in Action); Ball turret gunner: Leslie Black (Prisoner of War); flak burst broke ship in two, crashed Zettweil, seven miles W of Altenburg, Ger; Missing Air Crew Report 6739. MY YORKSHIRE DREAM.
Information may include corrections and additions based on Jing’s research.
B-17 42-38051 / My Yorkshire Dream Details
Statement of 1Lt. Charles L. Coons from MACR
On the mission to Leipzig, Germany, on 29 June 1944, I was the pilot of A/C #42-97546 which was flying in #2 position, lead squadron, low group of the 41st “B” Combat wing. The missing A/C, #42-38951, was flying in #5 position, low squadron, lead group of the same combat wing. Just before bombs away, the missing A/C received a direct hit from A/A gunfire just about the wais windows. It broke in two and immediately went straight down. I saw no chutes. The missing A/C blew up after it reached low altitude.
Mystery
T/Sgt. Terence Thomas Camp (38248139) is mentioned in the MACR/KU report and was captured at the same place/day. But his unit is not known. Apparently he was not crew member #42-38051.
Update after research:
He’s unit was 457th BG, but the B-17 is unknown.
B-17 42-38051 / My Yorkshire Dream Crew
| Position | Rank | Name | Status | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| P | 1LT | Arnold K. Roy | KIA | - |
| CP | 2LT | Ralph E. Quint | KIA | - |
| NAV | 2LT | Henry E. Rafferty, Jr. | KIA | - |
| BOMB | 1LT | Leonard E. Weiss | KIA | - |
| ENG/TT | SGT | Leonard C. Cock | KIA | - |
| RO | S/SGT | George H. Johnson | KIA | - |
| BT | SGT | Leslie K. Black | POW | - |
| WG | SGT | Chan K. On | KIA | - |
| TG | SGT | Olaf F. Kahnert, Jr. | KIA | - |
| UNK | T/SGT | Terence Thomas Camp | POW | S/N: 38248139. See in text above. |
This page was last updated on 12 April 2020
12. April 2020 access_time 0:14
Co-Pilot Ralph Quint was my grandfather. And did you know that 42-38051 was the next B17 off the assembly line after Thunderbird.
29. December 2021 access_time 22:32
Leslie Black is my father. He wrote in his journal that the a/c was broke in THREE pieces, not two. He came up out of his ball turret to find he was in the middle piece of the a/c. He was able to identify two other crewmembers in their parachutes, although one crewmembers parachute did not open. The other crewmembers parachute was caught in a tree as the crewmember went down. My fathers parachute landed in a farmers field in the middle of a haystack. He was immediately arrested and held as POW.
12. April 2020 access_time 1:57
According to the above history report, She went down over Zettweil, seven miles W of Altenburg, Those GPS ordinance 51° 00′.55″ N and 12°15’10.47″. There are no crash sites within many miles. Could we fact check this and post where she really went down. Dave Young Grandson of Co-pilot Ralph Quint.
12. April 2020 access_time 11:11
Hello Dave, the coordinates 51° 00′.55″ N and 12°15’10.47″ is for the town Zettweil. I looked to the MACR and the place of crash in the files is listed as: Between Zettweil and Poehla, 5 km W of Grossroeda, 10 to 12 km W of Altenburg.
I sent you an email with link ot a map.
Please check.
30. January 2022 access_time 2:46
Hi Dave I am son of Ralph Quint.Maybe we are related.?
31. July 2023 access_time 3:08
Hello William. I am the uncle of David Young and see he may not have responded to your email. I can perhaps fill in some questions about relationships in that my brother, David Young (same name as his son) was married to Tawny, who wasn’t aware who her real father was until sometime later in her life. Tawny’s mother didn’t divulge the real story to her but a slip of tongue from someone eventually led her to her real father’s name. She was born in 1944 & passed in 1999. Much research by my brother Dave & myself led us all to a reunion of 303rd bomb group in Seattle around 1985 where we met a pilot who was flying near 42-38051 on the day it was lost. The story continues but I won’t bore you with it now. Should you like to make contact I will be pleased to answer any questions I am able. I have understood the Quint family is in the east area of Massachusetts or so? Drop me a line if you will. – Richard Young