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Source:
Dave Wotanis
Production-block:
B-17F-35-BO: 42-5079 to 42-5149
Manufacturer:
Boeing
- Bomb Group:
- 97th Bomb Group
- Bomb Squadron:
- 414th Bomb Squadron
MACR: 720
History of
B-17 42-5147 / Old Ironsides
Delivered Cheyenne 4/10/42; West Palm Beach 12/12/42; Assigned 414BS/97BG Biskra 22/12/42; Chateau-du-Rhumel 3/2/43; coll with 41-24415 Palermo with Payne 9/5/43, nose sheared off but returned safely to base and repaired; Pont-du-Fahs 1/8/43; Depienne 15/8/43; Missing in Action Frascati 8/9/43; flak, crashed ? ; Missing Air Crew Report 720. OLD IRONSIDES.
Last updated: 26. February 2024
B-17 42-5147 / Old Ironsides Details
Mid-air-collision with B-17 #41-24415 ‘Yankee Doodle II’ on 9. May 1943. Repaired and returned to duty but shot down by flak on 8 September 1943.
B-17 42-5147 / Old Ironsides Crew
| Position | Rank | Name | Status | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| P | 1LT | Charles D. Gueriniere | KIA | - |
| CP | 2LT | Floyd H. Lyon Jr. | KIA | - |
| NAV | 2LT | Lawrence H. Owens | KIA | - |
| BOMB | 2LT | Irving Linder | KIA | - |
| ENG/TT | S/SGT | George J. Smith | POW | - |
| RO | S/SGT | John W. Mullins | POW | - |
| BT | S/SGT | Fred W. Yuvan | KIA | - |
| WG | T/SGT | Andrew H. Camarota Jr. | KIA | - |
| WG | S/SGT | Harry J. Carroll | POW | - |
| TG | S/SGT | Edward L. Gadouas | POW | - |
25. November 2025 access_time 0:53
my father’s a 101 Air born guy ,older brother was harry carroll wast gunner on this AC. his words were: we got shot down, only he and tail gunner got out. he went out opposite gun port throwing the gun out.where was that gunner ? setting on the deck. was he wounded, don’t know. I later find out harry was wrong. 4 got out harry and tail gunner became POW soon as they hit the ground. 2 more evading capacity for a few days. harry didn’t know that. harry arrived home in June of 45 ,the day my mother and dad got married. my dad wounded times the last at bastougne dec 25. in the hospital till March 45 harry was best man. harry stayed in the service went to Korea was going to send him to Vietnam….he said he’ll no 3 wars is too many. retired 22 years. died when. 83. harry didn’t remember the plane had a name..
25. November 2025 access_time 0:55
my father’s a 101 Air born guy ,older brother was harry carroll wast gunner on this AC. his words were: we got shot down, only he and tail gunner got out. he went out opposite gun port throwing the gun out.where was that gunner ? setting on the deck. was he wounded, don’t know. I later find out harry was wrong. 4 got out harry and tail gunner became POW soon as they hit the ground. 2 more evading capacity for a few days. harry didn’t know that. harry arrived home in June of 45 ,the day my mother and dad got married. my dad wounded 4 times the last at bastougne dec 25. in the hospital till March 45 harry was best man. harry stayed in the service went to Korea was going to send him to Vietnam….he said hell no 3 wars is too many. retired 22 years. died when. 83. harry didn’t remember the plane had a name..