Source:
Harley R. Stroven Film
| General | |
|---|---|
| Manufacturer: | Boeing |
| Production-Block: | , B-17G-80-BO: 43-38074 to 43-38273 |
| Delievered: | Cheyenne |
| Operational History | |
|---|---|
| Bomb Group: | , 486th Bomb Group |
| Bomb Squadron: | , 835th Bomb Squadron |
| RCL: | H8-R |
| MACR: | 9491 |
| KSU/ME/KU: | 3201 |
| Fate: |
, Lost by flak/aa-fire (15 October 1944) |
| Missions: | 31 |
History of
B-17 43-38136 / Snow White
Delivered Cheyenne 29/6/44; Kearney 13/7/44; Grenier 15/7/44; Assigned 835BS/486BG [H8-R] Sudbury 17/7/44; {31m} Missing in Action Cologne 15/10/44 with George List, Bombardier: John Wise, Jim Ellison, Rueben Bratmoe, Bob Stanley, Jim Goonan, Dick Sherman (7 Killed in Action); Norman Dahlstrom, Owen Crawford (2 Prisoner of War); flak, crashed Overath, Ger. Missing Air Crew Report 9491. SNOW WHITE.
Information may include corrections and additions based on Jing’s research.
B-17 43-38136 / Snow White Details
Eyewitness Statements
Sgt. F. X. Murphy [Frances X. Murphy, Tail Gunner] of Lt. Ewing’s [Willie D. Ewing, B-17 43-37992] crew reports that at 0927 he saw a B-17 spinning and turning going into the clouds. He thought he saw 2 chutes.
Lt. Mullin’s [Dan A. Mullen, ship 43-37952]crew saw a B-17 which they believed to be 136 drop behind the formation. A wing broke off and then the plane went into a spin. No chutes were seen this crew was a good distance away so they are not positive that there were no chutes.
Source: MACR 9491
B-17 43-38136 / Snow White Crew
| Position | Rank | Name | Status | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| P | 2LT | George List | KIA | - |
| CP | 2LT | Norman R. Dahlstrom | POW | - |
| NAV | 1LT | John B. Wise | KIA | - |
| BOMB | 2LT | James D. Ellison | KIA | - |
| ENG/TT | S/SGT | Rueben Bratmoe | KIA | - |
| RO | S/SGT | Robert F. Stanley | KIA | - |
| BT | S/SGT | James T. Goonan | KIA | - |
| WG | S/SGT | Richard A. Sherman | KIA | - |
| TG | S/SGT | Owen Crawford | POW | - |
This page was last updated on 18 January 2026
11. March 2021 access_time 14:27
Does anyone have a photo of this aircraft? SSgt Dick Sherman (KIA while on this aircraft) was my great uncle.
04. May 2021 access_time 16:53
https://www.google.com/search?q=B-17+%22Snow+White%22&source=lmns&bih=751&biw=412&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=isvn&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiykqCPnrDwAhWDJFkFHXCcBuEQ_AUoAHoECAAQAw#imgrc=BtJtKROaXSMkQM
10. May 2025 access_time 21:58
Please feel free to pop an email through. I have a photo of the team but not the aircraft. Great grandfather was the tail gunner Owen Crawford
05. October 2025 access_time 11:52
I believe there is some footage of the aircraft at around the 31:43 minute mark in Harley Stoven’s film on YouTube https://youtu.be/2lJUD2PT6Os?si=ucjZLPjN1p6ux-wI
05. October 2025 access_time 18:18
Thank you for sharing the great video! 🙂