B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies B-17F

The main difference between the E and F models was the wider propeller blades with which the new model was equipped and which gave it better flight performance. The F model was produced in much larger numbers by three different manufacturers. Minor changes in details were made at each factory. The manufacturer was encoded in a suffix added to the model and block: BO stood for Boeing, VE for Lockheed Vega, and DL for Douglas. This made it clear that an aircraft with the designation “B-17F-50 VE” had been manufactured by Lockheed.

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 'Delta Rebel No. 2' // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 ‘Delta Rebel No. 2’ // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

The B-17F’s arrived in England in August 1942 and were destined to fly throughout 1943. However by the summer of 1944 they were a rare sight on operational bases. The planes were subsequently re-modifed by the idividual bases to cope with the unique problems that com to light in air combat. The aircraft, designed and tested in warmer climes, had to cope with the extremly low temperatures and high humidity of altitude flight. Problems encountered in the first few missions: the brushes in the electrical generators frozen up, the ball turret would not rotate, guns jammed, there was blind spot in the forward zone of fire and the tail was very heavy.

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“To find out at the beginning as us tried as one attacks the B-17 best, tried we bomb to and so on everything, even the bombers bombs. But we found out that the best tactics consisted in attacking her from the front and we used the 190s for it as end of ’43. The time at which you could shoot was very short since the approach-speed was very high. But, when you have hit the B-17 from the front, you have hit the cockpit or the engines mostly. There were only four 190s groups after this time which attacked from behind, which were called the “storm troops”. If the B-17 didn’t burn or the garrison didn’t jump down, then these 190s rammed the bombers at the tail unit or the rudder.”
Walter Krupinski

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Weak point

By November 1942, the Luftwaffe fighter pilots had realized that they could attack a B-17F head-on and be safe from return fire from the actual plane. The fitted 0.30-calibre michine gun in the plexiglass nose was ineffective so individual Bomber Groups decided to replace it with the more destructive 0.50-calibre guns. A nose gun installation kit was provided by 8th Air Force Service Command and the importance of a forward mounted turret on a B-17 was impressed upon the manufacturers. The work on converting the nose turret was very slow and could be only be carried on when the aircraft was free from combat commitments. It was not until May 1943 that B-17F’s with a factory fitted nose gun mount landed in Britain.

“The Germans got to the beginning of the war from the side or behind. But they got for a lot counter-intelligence fire at 25 to 30 B-17s. When they found out that the B-17 had less fire strength in the nose, they changed the tactics. You came in V formations of the front. For us it looked like a line, now and then, however, they came in the inverted V and we shot onto the middle which, however, wasn’t in range yet. At the next trace it was a normal V perhaps again and the middle was nearer than the outer positions. These came toward us with really high speed. You came with 400 miles and we flew 160 and fired her with her 20 mm cannons on the cockpits as soon as we were within range in the hope to meet something. One could see coming the 20 mm and one hoped that they didn’t meet. After the attack they shifted and came back. Only if they found a single machine, they were not effective from the front, they then came back from the side or behind. A machine at which one or two engines had failed was alone put on herself and the guys of the air force took their time to hit the fuel tanks on the two fuselage sides.”
Robert Davila, Pilot der USAAF

“At the beginning only the Fw 190 attacked the bombers and the Bf 109 only was used as escort. Most attacks were flown from the front. If the bombers noticed that the 190s came, they often flew a curve from 10 or 15 degrees. This made it hard to come flying up from the front again.”
Walter Krupinski

Several problems

Ball Turret Gunner

Ball Turret Gunner

The failure of the ball turret was of greater concern on the early models. Apart from the problem with retaion, the oxygen line, throat microphone, and flying suit heater cords all became tangled during normal combat operations. The gunner also feced the risk of running out of oxygen. The bottle contained insufficient oxygen for a normal mission and it was the job of the waist gunner to re-charge the ball turret cylinder but the valve often froze open and supply quickly emptied.

Other Problems included a leaking hydraulic unit, and a turret door that was prone to cracking. Getting out of the turret in an emergency was also a painfully slow procedure. The gunner had to hand-crank the turret in to the correct position, then lift himself out of the hatch and put on a parachute. Needless to say ball turret gunner was the least popular job amoung B-17 crews.

By May 1943, the US VIII Bomber Command had listed a dozen priorities for standard modifications: nose gun fittings, upper turret charging handles, armor plate protection for the pilot’s panel, more ammunitin for the gun in the radio room, an increase in the oxygen supply to all turrets, new radio antennae, Mark III IFF sets, a remote indicating compass and a life-raft realease. there was also a list of less important changes such as bullet proof glass in windows, re-locating waist gun sites for a better field of fire, fitting of GEE and changes to the oxygen system.

The cold conditions the aircraft operated in tended to freeze the bomb bay doors and the bomb shackles. In early missions this problem was overcome by one of the crew using a crow bar on on the frozen mechanism. Experienced crews would test the bomb bay door operation before they were on the bomb run.

Nothing could be done to stop the plane from being tail heavy but crews were warned about storing equipment and ammunition near the rear.

Another cause for condern was the ability of the waist gunners to inadvertently fire into the wing and tail. In July 1943 an electrical cut off system was fitted which automaticlly stopped the gun firing pins if the gun was aimed at any part of the plane.

One of the most important changes in the development of the B-17F was the addition of extra fuel tanks giving the plane another 1080 US gallons. effectively, this increased the B-17F’s range by 1000 miles and the operational radius doubled to 650 miles. The extra fuel units were called “Tokyo Tanks” (supposedly adding enough range so that a B-17 could get to Tokyo from a carrier in the Pacific) and were made up of nine rubber self-sealing cells placed betwenn of ribs of both wings. These long-range versions first appeared at English bases in May 1943.

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Random B-17F from database

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-31022

42-31022

Delivered Cheyenne 3/9/43; Scott 25/9/43; Assigned 407BS/92BG [PY- ] Podington 23/11/43; Missing in Action Augsburg 16/3/44 with George Starks, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Donovan Edgerly, Radio Operator: Bob Williams, Ball turret gunner: Bill Wyatt, Waist gunner: Arden Brenden, Waist gunner: Wallace Trinder (6EVD-both wgs, probably evd); Co-pilot: Dale Berry, Navigator: Ed Badder, Bombardier: Irving Baum,Tail gunner: Rich Morse (4 Prisoner of War); enemy aircraft set wing on fire, crashed Vitry-le-Francois, Marne, Fr; Missing Air Crew Report 3225.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-3138 / Eight Ball

42-3138 / Eight Ball

Delivered Cheyenne 22/2/443; Assigned 527BS/379BG [FO-M] Dow Fd 13/4/43; Kimbolton 30/5/43; Missing in Action Wilhelmshafen 11/6/43 with Burrel Newman, Co-pilot: John Culler, Navigator: George Jackson, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Leo Gauthier, Radio Operator: Ed Hyvonen{body recovered from mud flats 19/7/43}, Ball turret gunner: Jim Griffin, Waist gunner: Harry Dudley, Waist gunner: Joe Butterfield (8 Killed in Action); Bombardier: Tom Kelley,Tail gunner: Ray Lauters (2 Prisoner of War); enemy aircraft, crashed low watermark at Tossens, Ger. Missing Air Crew Report 1357.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-29488 / Lady Luck

42-29488 / Lady Luck

Delivered Cheyenne 22/12/42; Salina 4/1/43; Morrison 31/1/43; Assigned 416BS/99BG Navarin 20/2/43; crashed 3/5/43 ex-Bizerte, with Sid Buck, Luthus, Barker, Fitzpatrick, McKinnon, Surman, Gushrosko, Depew, Garland (9 Returned to Duty); Salvaged. LADY LUCK.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30711 / Fertile Turtle Myrtle

42-30711 / Fertile Turtle Myrtle

Delivered Denver 16/7/43; Gore 28/7/43; Watertown 31/7/43; Kearney 3/8/43; Topeka 12/8/43; Scott 13/8/43; Assigned 407BS/92BG [PY-G/H] Alconbury 31/8/43; crash landed RAF base 28/1/44 with Art Pickers; Missing in Action Frankfurt 29/1/44 with Jim Holdren, Co-pilot: Bob Baughan, Navigator: Ewald Huebscher, Bombardier: Norman Wolff, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Jesse Irving, Radio Operator: Earl Goewert, Ball turret gunner: Ron Preston,Tail gunner: Ray Deverse (8 Killed in Action); Waist gunner: Chas Galloway, Waist gunner: Chas Anderson (2 Prisoner of War); Enemy aircraft shot up nose section, crashed Le Noiriez, near Genech, ten miles SE of Lille, Fr. Missing Air Crew Report 2253. FERTILE TURTLE MYRTLE.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-3221 / Whale Tail

42-3221 / Whale Tail

Delivered Cheyenne 1/4/43; Dow 23/5/43; Assigned 534BS/381BG [GD-E] Ridgewell 29/5/43 with Dexter Lishon, Co-pilot: Don Rutan, Navigator: Darrell DeBolt, Bombardier: Bob Gluck, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Canute Johnson, Radio Operator: Ivan Tieman, Ball turret gunner: Lloyd Riddle, Waist gunner: Clarry Madison, Waist gunner: John Pedrosky,Tail gunner: Bill Marques; sustained battle damaged Kiel 5+m 28/7/43 with Major Art Briggs, Co-pilot: Dexter Lishon, Navigator: Capt Norman McKay, Bombardier: Lester Schneider, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Joe Labusheivicz, Radio Operator: Fred Smith, Ball turret gunner: Edwin Johnson, Waist gunner: Russ Batholomae, Waist gunner: John Kratzer,Tail gunner: Lt Claus Neeley (10 Returned to Duty); crash landed Thetford, Nfk., with three engines out Salvaged. WHALETAIL.

B-17 #42-3118 / Daisy June aka Shack Rabbit aka The Green Hornet

42-3118 / Daisy June aka Shack Rabbit aka The Green Hornet

Delivered Cheyenne 27/2/43; Presque Is 8/4/43; Assigned 339BS/96BG [QJ-A] Thurleigh 16/4/43 DAISY JUNE; transferred 413BS SHACK RABBIT; transferred 534BS/381BG [GD-N] Ridgewell 6/7/43; Missing in Action 14m Oschersleben 11/1/44 with Austin Larson, Co-pilot: Francis Wilson, Navigator: Horace Neff, Bombardier: George Regan, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Edwin Nix, Radio Operator: Mike Trainer, Ball turret gunner: Milt Copeland, Waist gunner: John Crawbuck,Tail gunner: Alex Williams (9 Prisoner of War), Waist gunner: Ross Defenbaugh (Killed in Action); two engines KO’d by enemy aircraft & flak, crashed out of control at Goslar near Bernburg, 20 miles SW of Oschersleben, Ger. Missing Air Crew Report 1875. THE GREEN HORNET.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-5970

42-5970

Delivered Long Beach 3/6/43; Gore 3/7/43; Dow Fd 20/7/43; Assigned 813BS/482BG [PC-T] with HSC radar scanner fitted Alconbury 29/7/43; crash landed Eye, Sfk 13/12/43, Salvaged. Re-ass 369BS/306BG [WW-K] Thurleigh 21/4/44; Missing in Action 16/7/44.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30051 / Nevada Wildcat

42-30051 / Nevada Wildcat

Delivered Cheyenne 3/4/43; Kearney 15/4/43; Wendover 2/5/43; Hill 15/5/43; Wendover 18/5/43; Kearney 23/5/43; Dow Fd 28/5/43; Assigned 351BS/100BG [EP- ] Thorpe Abbotts 1/6/43; Missing in Action La Pallice 4/7/43 with Bob Pearson, Co-pilot: Melville Boyd{broke arm], Navigator: Bruce Rinker, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Jack Goss, Radio Operator: Randall Villa, Ball turret gunner: Everett Moore, Waist gunner: John Westwood, Waist gunner: Lorrie Rutledge,Tail gunner: Albt Purcell (9 Prisoner of War); Bombardier: John Dunbar (evaded capture); ship lost power on two engines, and a third shot out by Me 109, crashed three miles W of La Pallice, near Isle D’Orlean, Fr; Missing Air Crew Report 685. NEVADA WILDCAT.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 41-24372 / Hell’s Battlewagon

41-24372 / Hell’s Battlewagon

Assigned RAF [FA687] but transferred 352BS/301BG Westover 23/6/42; Chelveston/Podington 9/8/43; Tafaraoui 26/11/42; Maison Blanche 5/12/42; Biskra 16/12/42; Ain M’Lila 17/1/43; St Donat. 6/3/43; flak damage 11/4/43; {27m} Salvaged. HELL’S BATTLEWAGON.