B-17 Flying Fortress B-17 43-38925

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 43-38925


  • RCL: 4N-T

MACR: 11798 / KSU/ME/KU: 3602

Missions: 17


History of
B-17 43-38925

Delivered Lincoln 12/10/44; Dow Fd 24/10/44; Assigned: 833BS/486BG [4N-T] Sudbury 25/10/44; MIA Mannheim 21/1/45 Pilot: George Holdefer, Theo Odell, Sante Fasan, Fred Hermann, John Dellafave, Tony Victor, Sol Shindel, Chas McGee, Joe Ginney (9POW); flak, crashed Ingstettin, Germany. MACR 11798.

Last updated: 1. October 2023


B-17 43-38925 Details

Eyewitness Statement

Aircraft #925 lost #3 engine at target at 1214 hours, altitude 26000′. Let down wheels in signifying intention to aborting. Aircraft was losing altitude slowly and under control.

German Report To Computing Station West Oberursel

Subject: Downing of a single Fortress B-17G on 21 January 1945, at 1533 hours over the area Muesingen, 500m west of Ingstetten, 24km west of Ulm, CU 5/04 East MA.

The Fortress flew alone at the time of attack on Mannheim, Aschaffenburg, Hanau and Pforzheim, it flew 1347 over the area of Bruchsal south of Heilbronn east of Stuttgart, south of Reutlingen-Horb, Pforzheim, Heilbronn, Schwäbisch-Gmünd, Ulm.

Shot down west of Ulm by Me 109. Aircraft altitude 2400-1900-1600m. Identification of Fortress (“4”) 833. Sqn. 486. Group, 3. Bomb. Div.
Maps were sent to Oberursel concerning the attack on Pfrozheim on June 1944. Effects salvaged from the aircraft. No parts of bodies found. No parachutes seen. Crew presumably bailed out before the crash.

Source: MACR 11798

Aircraft Marking based on German Report at crash site.

Aircraft Type: Fortress B-17G, Letters 4N. Serial No. 338925 – T on the tail fin.


B-17 43-38925 Crew

Position Rank Name Status Note
P 1LT George W. Heldefer POW
CP 2LT Theodore T. Odell, Jr. POW
BOMB 2LT Frederick L. Hermann POW
ENG/TT T/SGT John P. Dellafave POW
RO T/SGT Tony Victor POW
BT CPL Sol Shindel POW
WG S/SGT Charles R. Magee POW
TG S/SGT Joseph E. Kinney POW

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