B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies B-17F

The main difference between the E and F models was the wider propeller blades with which the new model was equipped and which gave it better flight performance. The F model was produced in much larger numbers by three different manufacturers. Minor changes in details were made at each factory. The manufacturer was encoded in a suffix added to the model and block: BO stood for Boeing, VE for Lockheed Vega, and DL for Douglas. This made it clear that an aircraft with the designation “B-17F-50 VE” had been manufactured by Lockheed.

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 'Delta Rebel No. 2' // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 ‘Delta Rebel No. 2’ // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

The B-17F’s arrived in England in August 1942 and were destined to fly throughout 1943. However by the summer of 1944 they were a rare sight on operational bases. The planes were subsequently re-modifed by the idividual bases to cope with the unique problems that com to light in air combat. The aircraft, designed and tested in warmer climes, had to cope with the extremly low temperatures and high humidity of altitude flight. Problems encountered in the first few missions: the brushes in the electrical generators frozen up, the ball turret would not rotate, guns jammed, there was blind spot in the forward zone of fire and the tail was very heavy.

Werbung/Advertisement

“To find out at the beginning as us tried as one attacks the B-17 best, tried we bomb to and so on everything, even the bombers bombs. But we found out that the best tactics consisted in attacking her from the front and we used the 190s for it as end of ’43. The time at which you could shoot was very short since the approach-speed was very high. But, when you have hit the B-17 from the front, you have hit the cockpit or the engines mostly. There were only four 190s groups after this time which attacked from behind, which were called the “storm troops”. If the B-17 didn’t burn or the garrison didn’t jump down, then these 190s rammed the bombers at the tail unit or the rudder.”
Walter Krupinski

Bundesarchiv, Bild 101I-657-6304-24 / Meschke / CC-BY-SA 3.0 [CC BY-SA 3.0 de (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/de/deed.en)], via Wikimedia Commons

Bundesarchiv, Bild 101I-657-6304-24 / Meschke / CC-BY-SA 3.0 [CC BY-SA 3.0 de (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/de/deed.en)], via Wikimedia Commons

Weak point

By November 1942, the Luftwaffe fighter pilots had realized that they could attack a B-17F head-on and be safe from return fire from the actual plane. The fitted 0.30-calibre michine gun in the plexiglass nose was ineffective so individual Bomber Groups decided to replace it with the more destructive 0.50-calibre guns. A nose gun installation kit was provided by 8th Air Force Service Command and the importance of a forward mounted turret on a B-17 was impressed upon the manufacturers. The work on converting the nose turret was very slow and could be only be carried on when the aircraft was free from combat commitments. It was not until May 1943 that B-17F’s with a factory fitted nose gun mount landed in Britain.

“The Germans got to the beginning of the war from the side or behind. But they got for a lot counter-intelligence fire at 25 to 30 B-17s. When they found out that the B-17 had less fire strength in the nose, they changed the tactics. You came in V formations of the front. For us it looked like a line, now and then, however, they came in the inverted V and we shot onto the middle which, however, wasn’t in range yet. At the next trace it was a normal V perhaps again and the middle was nearer than the outer positions. These came toward us with really high speed. You came with 400 miles and we flew 160 and fired her with her 20 mm cannons on the cockpits as soon as we were within range in the hope to meet something. One could see coming the 20 mm and one hoped that they didn’t meet. After the attack they shifted and came back. Only if they found a single machine, they were not effective from the front, they then came back from the side or behind. A machine at which one or two engines had failed was alone put on herself and the guys of the air force took their time to hit the fuel tanks on the two fuselage sides.”
Robert Davila, Pilot der USAAF

“At the beginning only the Fw 190 attacked the bombers and the Bf 109 only was used as escort. Most attacks were flown from the front. If the bombers noticed that the 190s came, they often flew a curve from 10 or 15 degrees. This made it hard to come flying up from the front again.”
Walter Krupinski

Several problems

Ball Turret Gunner

Ball Turret Gunner

The failure of the ball turret was of greater concern on the early models. Apart from the problem with retaion, the oxygen line, throat microphone, and flying suit heater cords all became tangled during normal combat operations. The gunner also feced the risk of running out of oxygen. The bottle contained insufficient oxygen for a normal mission and it was the job of the waist gunner to re-charge the ball turret cylinder but the valve often froze open and supply quickly emptied.

Other Problems included a leaking hydraulic unit, and a turret door that was prone to cracking. Getting out of the turret in an emergency was also a painfully slow procedure. The gunner had to hand-crank the turret in to the correct position, then lift himself out of the hatch and put on a parachute. Needless to say ball turret gunner was the least popular job amoung B-17 crews.

By May 1943, the US VIII Bomber Command had listed a dozen priorities for standard modifications: nose gun fittings, upper turret charging handles, armor plate protection for the pilot’s panel, more ammunitin for the gun in the radio room, an increase in the oxygen supply to all turrets, new radio antennae, Mark III IFF sets, a remote indicating compass and a life-raft realease. there was also a list of less important changes such as bullet proof glass in windows, re-locating waist gun sites for a better field of fire, fitting of GEE and changes to the oxygen system.

The cold conditions the aircraft operated in tended to freeze the bomb bay doors and the bomb shackles. In early missions this problem was overcome by one of the crew using a crow bar on on the frozen mechanism. Experienced crews would test the bomb bay door operation before they were on the bomb run.

Nothing could be done to stop the plane from being tail heavy but crews were warned about storing equipment and ammunition near the rear.

Another cause for condern was the ability of the waist gunners to inadvertently fire into the wing and tail. In July 1943 an electrical cut off system was fitted which automaticlly stopped the gun firing pins if the gun was aimed at any part of the plane.

One of the most important changes in the development of the B-17F was the addition of extra fuel tanks giving the plane another 1080 US gallons. effectively, this increased the B-17F’s range by 1000 miles and the operational radius doubled to 650 miles. The extra fuel units were called “Tokyo Tanks” (supposedly adding enough range so that a B-17 could get to Tokyo from a carrier in the Pacific) and were made up of nine rubber self-sealing cells placed betwenn of ribs of both wings. These long-range versions first appeared at English bases in May 1943.

Werbung/Advertisement

Random B-17F from database

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-5761

42-5761

Delivered Cheyenne 27/12/42; Boise 19/1/43; Orlando 24/3/43; Lowry 14/4/43; Wright Fd 14/6/43; Watertown 25/6/43; with Ralph Nestle force landed Valentine, NE 18/7/43; Hill Fd 6/8/43; with John Wilcox force landed Sioux City Fd 4/3/44; with Aaron Slavin force landed base 28/3/44; 4136 BU Tinker 19/6/44; 244 BU Harvard 21/6/44; 505BG Harvard 20/7/44; 235 BU Biggs 16/8/44; Written off 24/9/44.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-6042

42-6042

Delivered Burbank 2/7/43; Dallas 8/8/43; crashed 18/10/43 with Dick Creamer, on Stormy Peak, Pinetree Park, Col.; Written off 21/10/43.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-6188

42-6188

Delivered Long Beach 17/8/43; Cheyenne 18/8/43; 2117 BU Buckingham 16/6/44; 3501 Boca Raton 16/17/44; 2114 BU Lockbourn 4/7/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Altus 9/10/45.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-3437 / Excaliburs Revenge

42-3437 / Excaliburs Revenge

Delivered Denver 18/6/43; Dow Fd 22/7/43; Assigned 339BS/96BG [QJ- ] Snetterton 27/7/43; Missing in Action Paris 15/9/43 with Jim Richardson, Co-pilot: Larry Dupe, Navigator: Elmer Smith, Bombardier: George Frank, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Lonnie Turner, Ball turret gunner: Joe Scarano, Waist gunner: Henry Cabellero, Waist gunner: Don Reid,Tail gunner: Elwin McMahon (9 Killed in Action); Radio Operator: Rudolph Richer (evaded capture); flak hit & exploded over Paris, Fr; Missing Air Crew Report 726.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-3364

42-3364

Delivered Denver 25/5/43; Dyersburg 13/7/43; 202 BU Galveston 12/2/44; 268 BU Peterson 30/3/44; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Kingman 27/10/45.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30152 / Messie Bessie

42-30152 / Messie Bessie

Delivered Cheyenne 17/4/43; Smoky Hill 24/4/43; Walla Walla 30/4/43; Smoky Hill 20/5/43; Dow Fd 28/5/43; Assigned 96BG Andrews Fd 1/6/43; Snetterton 12/6/43; transferred 381BG Ridgewell 16/7/43; 418BS/100BG [LD-X] Thorpe Abbotts 7/43; battle damaged Paris with Walter Moreno, crash landed on return; 100+m, Salvaged 28/4/45. MESSIE BESSIE.

B-17 #42-29978 / Hell’s Angel

42-29978 / Hell’s Angel

Delivered Denver 20/3/43; Pueblo 8/4/43; Smoky Hill 7/5/43; Dow Fd 24/5/43; Assigned 534BS/381BG [GD-F] Ridgewell 31/5/43 with Reinhardt King, Neil Wright, Ed McGlynn, Francis Petrillo, Cecil Fleura, Maynard Unger, Joe Lyons, Albt Pollard, Bob Dwyer, Julius Mann; Missing in Action 3m Schweinfurt 17/8/43 with Reinhardt King, Co-pilot: Henry Peeples, Navigator: Ed McGlynn, Bombardier: Francis Petrillo, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Cecil Floura, Radio Operator: Maynard Unger, Ball turret gunner: Albt Pollard, Waist gunner: Julius Mann, Waist gunner: Bob Dwyer,Tail gunner: Joe Lyons (10 Prisoner of War); enemy aircraft, crashed Bad Schwalbach, six miles NW of Wiesbaden, Ger; Missing Air Crew Report 382. HELL’S ANGEL.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-29982

42-29982

Delivered Cheyenne 20/3/43; Hobbs 31/3/43; Long Beach 16/11/43; 3017 BU Hobbs 8/11/44; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Altus 14/9/45.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30098

42-30098

Delivered Cheyenne 9/4/43; Gore 10/4/43; Cheyenne 13/4/43; Hobbs 19/4/43; 4136 BU Tinker 4/7/44; 3017 BU Hobbs 8/11/44; with John Holf force landed Altus Fd, OK 20/7/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Altus 11/9/45.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-3274

42-3274

Delivered Denver 13/4/43; Presque Is 15/5/43; Assigned 367BS/306BG [GY-L] Thurleigh 4/6/43; transferred 323BS/91BG [OR-U] Bassingbourn 29/6/43; Missing in Action Frankfurt 4/10/43 with Lloyd Schaper, Co-pilot: Ray Stephens, Navigator: Woodrow Mays, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Bill Brickley, Radio Operator: Harry Weintraub, Ball turret gunner: Ernie Archer, Waist gunner: Jim Regan, Waist gunner: Don Irons,Tail gunner: Don Alton (9 Prisoner of War), Bombardier: Steve Monson (Killed in Action); last seen on bombing run apparently having engine trouble from the start and dragging behind, crashed Limburg, Bel. Missing Air Crew Report 881.