Source:
www.americanairmuseum.com
| General | |
|---|---|
| Manufacturer: | Boeing |
| Production-Block: | , B-17G-20-BO: 42-31432 to 42-31631 |
| Operational History | |
|---|---|
| Bomb Group: | , 95th Bomb Group |
| Bomb Squadron: | , 335th Bomb Squadron |
| RCL | OE-Z |
| MACR | 2644 |
| Fate: |
, Lost by flak/aa-fire (24 February 1944) |
History of
B-17 42-31561 / Just Elmer’s Tune
Delivered Denver 24/11/43; Kearney 11/12/43; Romulus 17/12/43; Presque Is 20/12/43; Assigned 335BS/95BG [OE-Z] Horham 24/12/43; 11m, Missing in Action Rostock 24/2/44 with Elmer Costales, Co-pilot: Steve Kish, Bombardier: Lars Skoug, Radio Operator: Lester Seeling, Ball turret gunner: Bob Joyce, Waist gunner: Leaman McCulloch, Waist gunner: Norman Carnie,Tail gunner: Edwin Hays (8 Prisoner of War); Navigator: Cliff Sahner, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: George Peckacek (2 Killed in Action); flak hit #1 and stabilizer damaged, dropped behind and crash landed Oster Hojst, S of Logumkloster, Den. Missing Air Crew Report 2644. JUST ELMER’S TUNE.
Information may include corrections and additions based on Jing’s research.
B-17 42-31561 / Just Elmer’s Tune Details
B-17 42-31561 / Just Elmer’s Tune Crew
| Position | Rank | Name | Status | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| P | 1LT | Elmer J. Costales | POW | Hit in his right lung |
| CP | 2LT | Steve A. Kish | POW | Hit in his right leg |
| NAV | 2LT | Clifford D. Sahner Jr. | KIA | - |
| BOMB | 2LT | Lars E. Skoug | POW | Hit in the legs |
| ENG/TT | T/SGT | George F. Pechaceh | KIA | parachute not deployed |
| RO | T/SGT | Lester W. Seelig | POW | - |
| BT | S/SGT | Robert J. Joyse | POW | - |
| WG | S/SGT | Leamon E. McCulloch | POW | - |
| WG | S/SGT | Norman M. Carnie | POW | - |
| TG | S/SGT | Edwin W. Hays | POW | - |
This page was last updated on 09 March 2019
01. October 2020 access_time 20:48
God Bless you Uncle Norm for you service and sacrifice. You were loved, and revered.
Sincerely,
Roger Carnie
02. March 2023 access_time 15:12
In addition to being a hero, the best grandfather a boy could ask for.
11. April 2026 access_time 13:33
Hi Roger, We are holding a memorial day for your Uncles plane, and to commemorate the fallen flying soldiers here in Øster Højest in Denmark, and I would like to get in touch with you. Kind regards Peter Air Force Soldiers’ Association in Denmark
11. April 2026 access_time 20:21
Hello,
I attempted to respond via e-mail but it was bounced back to me, marked a undeliverable.
Please reach out to me at roger.carnie@gmail.com and or on my Mobile at 516-445-7372
11. April 2026 access_time 20:24
Contents of my message undeliverable message.
Hi Peter,
I’d be very interested in speaking with you about this incredible opportunity to memorialize the brave crew of Just Elmers tune. Feel free to e-mail me at roger.carnie@gmail.com and or by phone at 1- 516-445-7372
In the interim, I will reach out to my cousin Kathy Carnie Heyman to inform her that this is being done. Kathy is the only remaining daughter of my Uncle Norm. He has a surviving son, but I am not sure what level of health he is in.
If appropriate, and after speaking with you, I may contact the Long Island, New York air museum in Farmingdale, NY. My Uncle Norman’s name is on a list of Long Island WWII airmen displayed in the museum. I am sure they would be interested in hearing more if it is deemed appropriate.
Thank you,
Roger Carnie – Son of Roger Philip Carnie of Freeport, NY (Norman’s younger brother) who served in the U.S. Navy as a SeeBee in both WWII and the Korean War.
Thank you for contacting me. It is greatly appreciated. I feel I am the only one left to keep the story alive.
Roger Carnie
On Sat, Apr 11, 2026 at 9:34 AM WordPress wrote:
Hallo Roger Carnie,
13. April 2026 access_time 16:49
Contents of my message undeliverable message.
Hi Peter,
I’d be very interested in speaking with you about this incredible opportunity to memorialize the brave crew of Just Elmers tune. Feel free to e-mail me at roger.carnie@gmail.com and or by phone at 1- 516-445-7372
In the interim, I will reach out to my cousin Kathy Carnie Heyman to inform her that this is being done. Kathy is the only remaining daughter of my Uncle Norm. He has a surviving son, but I am not sure what level of health he is in.
If appropriate, and after speaking with you, I may contact the Long Island, New York air museum in Farmingdale, NY. My Uncle Norman’s name is on a list of Long Island WWII airmen displayed in the museum. I am sure they would be interested in hearing more if it is deemed appropriate.
Thank you,
Roger Carnie – Son of Roger Philip Carnie of Freeport, NY (Norman’s younger brother) who served in the U.S. Navy as a SeeBee in both WWII and the Korean War.
Thank you for contacting me. It is greatly appreciated. I feel I am the only one left to keep the story alive.
Roger Carnie
On Sat, Apr 11, 2026 at 9:34 AM WordPress wrote:
Hallo Roger Carnie,