B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies B-17F

The main difference between the E and F models was the wider propeller blades with which the new model was equipped and which gave it better flight performance. The F model was produced in much larger numbers by three different manufacturers. Minor changes in details were made at each factory. The manufacturer was encoded in a suffix added to the model and block: BO stood for Boeing, VE for Lockheed Vega, and DL for Douglas. This made it clear that an aircraft with the designation “B-17F-50 VE” had been manufactured by Lockheed.

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 'Delta Rebel No. 2' // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

B-17F-30-BO #42-5077 ‘Delta Rebel No. 2’ // [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

The B-17F’s arrived in England in August 1942 and were destined to fly throughout 1943. However by the summer of 1944 they were a rare sight on operational bases. The planes were subsequently re-modifed by the idividual bases to cope with the unique problems that com to light in air combat. The aircraft, designed and tested in warmer climes, had to cope with the extremly low temperatures and high humidity of altitude flight. Problems encountered in the first few missions: the brushes in the electrical generators frozen up, the ball turret would not rotate, guns jammed, there was blind spot in the forward zone of fire and the tail was very heavy.

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“To find out at the beginning as us tried as one attacks the B-17 best, tried we bomb to and so on everything, even the bombers bombs. But we found out that the best tactics consisted in attacking her from the front and we used the 190s for it as end of ’43. The time at which you could shoot was very short since the approach-speed was very high. But, when you have hit the B-17 from the front, you have hit the cockpit or the engines mostly. There were only four 190s groups after this time which attacked from behind, which were called the “storm troops”. If the B-17 didn’t burn or the garrison didn’t jump down, then these 190s rammed the bombers at the tail unit or the rudder.”
Walter Krupinski

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Weak point

By November 1942, the Luftwaffe fighter pilots had realized that they could attack a B-17F head-on and be safe from return fire from the actual plane. The fitted 0.30-calibre michine gun in the plexiglass nose was ineffective so individual Bomber Groups decided to replace it with the more destructive 0.50-calibre guns. A nose gun installation kit was provided by 8th Air Force Service Command and the importance of a forward mounted turret on a B-17 was impressed upon the manufacturers. The work on converting the nose turret was very slow and could be only be carried on when the aircraft was free from combat commitments. It was not until May 1943 that B-17F’s with a factory fitted nose gun mount landed in Britain.

“The Germans got to the beginning of the war from the side or behind. But they got for a lot counter-intelligence fire at 25 to 30 B-17s. When they found out that the B-17 had less fire strength in the nose, they changed the tactics. You came in V formations of the front. For us it looked like a line, now and then, however, they came in the inverted V and we shot onto the middle which, however, wasn’t in range yet. At the next trace it was a normal V perhaps again and the middle was nearer than the outer positions. These came toward us with really high speed. You came with 400 miles and we flew 160 and fired her with her 20 mm cannons on the cockpits as soon as we were within range in the hope to meet something. One could see coming the 20 mm and one hoped that they didn’t meet. After the attack they shifted and came back. Only if they found a single machine, they were not effective from the front, they then came back from the side or behind. A machine at which one or two engines had failed was alone put on herself and the guys of the air force took their time to hit the fuel tanks on the two fuselage sides.”
Robert Davila, Pilot der USAAF

“At the beginning only the Fw 190 attacked the bombers and the Bf 109 only was used as escort. Most attacks were flown from the front. If the bombers noticed that the 190s came, they often flew a curve from 10 or 15 degrees. This made it hard to come flying up from the front again.”
Walter Krupinski

Several problems

Ball Turret Gunner

Ball Turret Gunner

The failure of the ball turret was of greater concern on the early models. Apart from the problem with retaion, the oxygen line, throat microphone, and flying suit heater cords all became tangled during normal combat operations. The gunner also feced the risk of running out of oxygen. The bottle contained insufficient oxygen for a normal mission and it was the job of the waist gunner to re-charge the ball turret cylinder but the valve often froze open and supply quickly emptied.

Other Problems included a leaking hydraulic unit, and a turret door that was prone to cracking. Getting out of the turret in an emergency was also a painfully slow procedure. The gunner had to hand-crank the turret in to the correct position, then lift himself out of the hatch and put on a parachute. Needless to say ball turret gunner was the least popular job amoung B-17 crews.

By May 1943, the US VIII Bomber Command had listed a dozen priorities for standard modifications: nose gun fittings, upper turret charging handles, armor plate protection for the pilot’s panel, more ammunitin for the gun in the radio room, an increase in the oxygen supply to all turrets, new radio antennae, Mark III IFF sets, a remote indicating compass and a life-raft realease. there was also a list of less important changes such as bullet proof glass in windows, re-locating waist gun sites for a better field of fire, fitting of GEE and changes to the oxygen system.

The cold conditions the aircraft operated in tended to freeze the bomb bay doors and the bomb shackles. In early missions this problem was overcome by one of the crew using a crow bar on on the frozen mechanism. Experienced crews would test the bomb bay door operation before they were on the bomb run.

Nothing could be done to stop the plane from being tail heavy but crews were warned about storing equipment and ammunition near the rear.

Another cause for condern was the ability of the waist gunners to inadvertently fire into the wing and tail. In July 1943 an electrical cut off system was fitted which automaticlly stopped the gun firing pins if the gun was aimed at any part of the plane.

One of the most important changes in the development of the B-17F was the addition of extra fuel tanks giving the plane another 1080 US gallons. effectively, this increased the B-17F’s range by 1000 miles and the operational radius doubled to 650 miles. The extra fuel units were called “Tokyo Tanks” (supposedly adding enough range so that a B-17 could get to Tokyo from a carrier in the Pacific) and were made up of nine rubber self-sealing cells placed betwenn of ribs of both wings. These long-range versions first appeared at English bases in May 1943.

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Random B-17F from database

B-17 #41-24359 / Turd Burd

41-24359 / Turd Burd

Assigned 301BG Westover 8/9/42; instead of assignment to 12AF, Italy transferred to Chelveston 16/9/42; 813BS/305BG Grafton Underwood/Chelveston 25/11/42, sent to pathfinder base RAF Wyton of installation of Oboe Mk I radar equipment; 325BS/92BG [NV-F] Podington 24/4/43; 813BS/482BG Alconbury 25/8/43 4m; Returned to the USA Eglin 11/6/44; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Walnut Ridge 19/12/45.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30457 / Jimmy Boy II

42-30457 / Jimmy Boy II

Delivered Cheyenne 3/6/43; Gore 16/6/43; Kearney 18/6/43; Dow Fd 8/7/43; Assigned 331BS/94BG [QE-N] Rougham 9/7/43; Missing in Action Schweinfurt 14/10/43 with Tom Beal, Co-pilot: Hubert Moseley, Radio Operator: Chas Elwell, Waist gunner: Bob Dillon (4 Prisoner of War); Navigator: George Glatthar, Bombardier: Ed Burley, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Jim Tracy, Ball turret gunner: Levorn Jamgochian, Waist gunner: Bob Hamrick,Tail gunner: Larry Sheck (6 evaded capture); enemy aircraft, crashed near Metz, Fr. Missing Air Crew Report 792. JIMMY BOY II.

B-17 #42-6107

42-6107

Delivered Long Beach 24/7/43; Denver 17/8/43; Dalhart 23/10/43; with Melvin Scarborough force landed Galveston 25/10/43; 202 BU Galveston 20/7/44; 554 BU Memphis 15/11/44; 222 BU Ardmore 23/2/45; 4202 BU Syracuse 30/3/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Altus 7/11/45. Fitted with Rolls Royce turbo-prop engines as US Civil No.1340 N; used as tanker, cr/Dubois, Wyo 18/8/70.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30911

42-30911

Delivered Cheyenne 19/8/43; Tinker 13/12/43; 3501 BU Boca Raton 14/7/44; 3502 BU Chanute 23/4/45; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Walnut Ridge 7/1/46.

B-17 #42-30348 / Royal Flush

42-30348 / Royal Flush

Delivered Cheyenne 18/5/43; Geiger 27/5/43; Gt Falls 7/6/43; Smoky Hill 9/7/43; Dow Fd 14/7/43; Assigned 569BS/390BG [CC-N] Framlingham 13/7/43; Missing in Action Bremen 16/12/43 with Clarry Gill, Radio Operator: Grady Embree, Navigator: Edgar Cannon, Bombardier: Fred Gunther, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: John Rogers, Radio Operator: Glenn Carver, Ball turret gunner: Clyde Sutton, Waist gunner: Jim Goschka, Waist gunner: Calvin Buckmaster,Tail gunner: Joe Moreau (10 Prisoner of War); enemy aircraft, crashed Augustfehn, 10 miles NW of Bad Zwischenahn, Ger; Missing Air Crew Report 1728. ROYAL FLUSH.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-30633

42-30633

Delivered Amarillo 1/7/43; Ephrata 18/7/43; Kingman 1/8/43; Love 3/8/43; 359BS HQ Alamogordo 30/3/44; 203 BU Jackson 31/1/45; with George Canavan crashed three miles NW base 11/4/45; Recl Comp 12/4/45.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-5150 / Vera De

42-5150 / Vera De

Delivered Cheyenne 4/10/42; Casper 30/5/43; force landed base 23/11/43 with George Winger; Kearney 3/8/43; when parked at MacDill hit in taxi acc. by 42-6001 on 17/2/44; Written off 20/2/44. VERA DE.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-29765 / Nip & Tuck

42-29765 / Nip & Tuck

Delivered Cheyenne 15/2/43; Walker 27/2/43; Salina 10/3/43; Presque 5/4/43; Assigned: 338BS/96BG Grafton Underwood 18/4/43; Andrews Fd 13/5/43; Snetterton 12/6/43; Transferred: 533BS/381BG [VP-R] Ridgewell 14/7/43; MIA {17m} Bremen 8/10/43 Pilot: Jim Hartje, Co-Pilot: Joe Jerome, Navigator: Edgar Norton, Bombardier: Joe Channault, Radio Operator: Germany. ld LaPlace, Waist Gunner: Ed Swackhammer, Tail Gunner: Art Seiber (7POW), Engineer / Top Turret Gunner: Gene Kaseman, Ball Turret Gunner: Clayton Boykin, Waist Gunner: Ed Czyz (3KIA); Enemy aircraft set #2 & #3 on fire, crashed abot 25 miles from Bremen, Ger. MACR 883. NIP ‘N TUCK.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-3410

42-3410

Delivered Long Beach 9/6/43; 2137 BU Hendricks 9/1/44; Sioux City 4/4/44; Hendricks 7/8/44; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Walnut Ridge 19/12/45.

B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies 42-5355

42-5355

Delivered Denver 20/11/42; Casper 1/1/43; Pyote 24/4/43; with John Child force landed Clovis, NM 11/6/44; 4200 BU Chicago Mun 13/6/44; 234 BU Clovis 14/6/44; 4100 BU Patterson 16/6/44; 2218 BU Alexandra 6/9/44; 329 BU Alexandra for survey colided with 42-31948 on 54-ship practice flight NE Louisiana Rapids 7/5/45, (9 Killed in Service).