| Allgemein | |
|---|---|
| Hersteller: | Boeing |
| Produktionsblock: | , B-17G-35-BO: 42-31932 bis 42-32116 |
| Einsatzgeschichte | |
|---|---|
| Bomber-Gruppe: | , 483rd Bomb Group, 99th Bomb Group |
| Bomber-Staffel: | , 817th Bomb Squadron |
| MACR | 12082 |
| Schicksal: |
, Kollision in der Luft (08 Februar 1945) |
| Einsätze: | 93 |
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Geschichte der
B-17 42-32071 / Moonbeam McSwine aka Nine Wolves and Poppa aka Freddie H
Delivered Cheyenne 21/1/44; MacDill 4/2/44; Morrison 7/3/44; Assigned 817BS/483BG Tortorella 11/3/44; transferred 416BS/99BG Tortorella 31/3/44 MOONBEAM McSWINE; re-named NINE WOLVES & POPPA; Missing in Action {93m} Graz, Aus. 8/2/45 with Harry Schuld, Sumerall, Hagins, Agronow, Molnar, Kulberg, Goodwin, Wrona, Conley (8 Killed in Action); Frank Smith, Kosczyarek (2 Prisoner of War); mid air coll with 44-6691, crashed Kapsovar; Missing Air Crew Report 12082. FREDDY-H.
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B-17 42-32071 / Moonbeam McSwine aka Nine Wolves and Poppa aka Freddie H Details
Kollision in der Luft mit der B-17 #44-6691 am 08. Februar 1945.
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02. November 2023 access_time 12:16
There is no place named Kapsovar in this area. There are some outstandig questions about the crew. Koszyczarek and Smith are told to be brought to Fliegerhorst Thalerhof. Maybe that this was a wrong conclusion by the two survivers. Fliegerhorst Zeltweg is more probable. Michael Molnar is burried in Kleinfeistritz, about ten km away from Zeltweg.
06. November 2023 access_time 15:57
Thanks.
I have take a quick view to MACR 12082. It said, ship crashed west of Graz and other page said Mitterlobming/Steinmark on page 9.
Link: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/91120911?objectPage=9
06. November 2023 access_time 18:36
It isn’t definitely cleared where which aircraft came down. Michael Molnar is listed in der „Sterbematrik“ of Kleinfeistritz. This is in the neighbour valley of Mitterlobming. But M.M. should have been on Nine wolves and Poppa and not on 44-6691 which crashed NEAR Mitterlobming at the Gaberl Bundesstrasse B77 near Leonhardbauer at Talbacher wood.
07. November 2023 access_time 16:46
No I see. The location „Kapsovar“ is a typing error. Kaposvar is in Hungary about 190 miles southeast from Graz.
This location was involved to the Frankfurt/Oder Rally on 18 Dec. 1944, when Howard G. Theobald crashed there shot down I think there have been mixed some informations. See MACR-10633
06. August 2025 access_time 23:56
The remains of the two B-17s were found on mountain top outside of Klienlobming Austria. My Father was ‚pops‘ E.J. Koszyczarek sadly he passed away 8/14/1986