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| Allgemein | |
|---|---|
| Hersteller: | Boeing |
| Produktionsblock: | , B-17F-80-BO: 42-29932 bis 42-30031 |
| Einsatzgeschichte | |
|---|---|
| Bomber-Gruppe: | , 305th Bomb Group, 381st Bomb Group |
| Bomber-Staffel: | , 364th Bomb Squadron, 535th Bomb Squadron |
| RCL | MS-Q, WF-F |
| MACR | 1402 |
| Schicksal: |
, Kollision in der Luft (25 November 1943) |
| Einsätze: | 10 |
Geschichte der
B-17 42-29953 / Man o‘ War aka Wolfess
Delivered Denver 17/3/43; Pueblo 8/4/43; Smoky Hill 14/5/43; Dow Fd 21/5/43; Assigned: 535BS/381BG [MS-Q] Ridgewell 25/5/43 MAN O‘ WAR Pilot: Orlando Koenig, Everett Malone, Dave Jones, John Stracotenko, Leo Perkins, Tom Moore, Arth Everett, Bob Colborn, Russ Huebner, Walter Buran; {10m} Transferred: 364BS/305BG [WF-F] Chelveston 22/8/43; on training operation 25/11/43 w/Wetzel Mays, Co-Pilot: Bill Woodward, Navigator: Enoch Markt, Bombardier: Dave Braunig, Engineer / Top Turret Gunner: Harrison Jones, Radio Operator: Joe Gasperetti, Ball Turret Gunner: Joe Hudyck, Waist Gunner: Leon Brown, Waist Gunner: Chas Newton, Tail Gunner: Chas Neogra (10KIA); coll w/42-30666, ther wreckage of both down at Newton Bromswold, near base, MACR 1402. WOLFESS.
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B-17 42-29953 / Man o‘ War aka Wolfess Details
Kollision in der Luft beim Trainingsflug mit der B-17 #42-30666 am 25. November 1943. MACR 1402 gehört zu einer anderen B-17 namens „Man O‘ War“ (#42-30717), welches ebenfalls bei einer Kollision in der Luft verloren gegangen ist.
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28. März 2020 access_time 15:54
Here is footage of this aircraft back at base from a mission with battle damage and injured crew: https://i.imgur.com/EZpXc02.gifv
29. März 2020 access_time 10:30
Thank you for sharing!
29. März 2020 access_time 12:06
I am happy to make a small contribution but it is we who are interested in history that should thank you for creating and maintaining such an invaluable resource.
29. März 2020 access_time 12:28
I am very happy, if my web site is useful 🙂
I very like what I am doing with this web site 🙂
At the moment, I am working on a map with crash sites of the B-17s.
Not very easy. Some B-17, which lost have no crash sites. Have to do a lot of research in that case.
25. April 2020 access_time 23:15
Yes, this is a wonderful website. Thank you kindly for such an incredible resource. I hope I can share future contributions here.
28. Mai 2020 access_time 6:07
I am a bit confused as to whether this plane 42-29953 was called Man O War / Man O War – Wolfess and whether there was another B-17 called the same name. Can you help here?
My Uncle Enoch Markt, listed on this page was the navigator on this airplane at the time of the mid air collision.
I tried to look on your map of England, to determine where this mid air collision took place, but I could not locate it. Perhaps you do not have it listed.
Any help would be appreciated.
28. Mai 2020 access_time 15:40
Hello Presten,
42-29953 / Man o‘ War aka Wolfess went lost during flight training in a mid-air-collision with B-17 #42-30666. No MACR exist for this incident.
The MACR 1402 is wrongly asigned to #42-29953.
The correct B-17 to MACR 1402 is #42-30717 ‚Man O‘ War‘, which also lost by mi-air-collision on a combat mission.
The original source by Dave Osborne mix both B-17s because of these facts.
Both 42-29953 & 42-30666 are in the map.
26. Mai 2023 access_time 0:13
Dear Mr Eichers.
Please contact me on peterhill305@btinternet.com
I’m a farmer in Chelveston, home of the 305th bg that your uncle served. I know all about this collision and the sad lose of your uncle Enoch Markt , Wolfess Navigator.
We are starting to build a memorial for this collision and I need your family’s contact.
All the best
Peter
26. Mai 2023 access_time 0:24
Dear Mr Eichers.
I’m a farmer in Chelveston England where your uncle flew from.
I know about this collision and the story behind it. We are starting to put together a memorial dedicating these two crews of Wolfess and Daisy may. I’ve sent a message earlier but I think I sent it wrong .
Your Uncle Enoch Markt will be honoured in this memorial with 20 others and I need your family’s contact.
All the best
Peter
peterhill305@btinternet.com