| Allgemein | |
|---|---|
| Hersteller: | Boeing |
| Produktionsblock: | , B-17F-115-BO: 42-30617 bis 42-30731 |
| Einsatzgeschichte | |
|---|---|
| Bomber-Gruppe: | , 390th Bomb Group |
| Bomber-Staffel: | , 569th Bomb Squadron |
| RCL: | CC-P |
| MACR: | 1039 |
| Schicksal: |
, Abschuss durch Feindflugzeug (20 Oktober 1943) |
Geschichte der
B-17 42-30719 / Shatzi
Delivered Denver 17/7/43; Kearney 27/7/43; Scott 14/8/43; Assigned 569BS/390BG [CC-P] Framlingham 25/8/43; Missing in Action Duren 20/10/43 with Harry Schuyler, Co-pilot: Earl Rivers, Bombardier: George Sennatt, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Chas Bolig, Ball turret gunner: Bill Lincoln, Waist gunner: Harry Colby,Tail gunner: Bob Nielson (7 Prisoner of War); Radio Operator: Herman Gruntmeir, Waist gunner: Dick Johnson (2 Killed in Action); Navigator: John Hurst (evaded capture); enemy aircraft, aircraft broke in half, and crashed Eerde, near Veghel, Hol. Missing Air Crew Report 1039. SHATZI.
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09. Januar 2026 access_time 11:41
The summary says that the Shatzi broke in half. Where is this information based on?
I live in the village of Eerde, where the Shatzi crashed. I am gathering information about this event for our website and I want to have the facts as accurate as possible.
09. Januar 2026 access_time 19:04
Hello Ad van de Laar,
the information is from Dave Osborn’s Master Log. I can’t confirm the information either at the moment.
The MACR 1039 does not mention, that the aircraft broken in half.
You can read the MACR files here:
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/90900542
Cheers
Jing
09. Januar 2026 access_time 19:07
2Lt. John K. Hurst’s Escape and Evasion Report may be also interesting to you:
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/5554963
Cheers
Jing
07. Juni 2026 access_time 23:33
I can’t provide information on Shatzi breaking in half, but I do have a photograph of the crew with their names if you’d like. Shoot me an email and I’ll send it over.
11. Juni 2026 access_time 18:41
The 390th BG mission report for October 20, 1943, mentions the aircraft breaking in half: „Another aircraft from the 390th, the ‚Shatzi‘ (230719-[coded] P, 569[th BS]), was hounded by enemy fighters around the same time the ‚Sequatchiee‘ [another B-17, hit by flak which returned to base despite four men bailing out over enemy territory] was hit. While the pilot tried to shake off their attackers by engaging in violent evasive maneuvers, the Germans still managed to bring the plane down. Other air crews watched in horror as the Shatzi fell into a spiral and broke in two before they lost sight of it. The plane ultimately crashed near Hergenbosch, Germany. All but two members of the crew (Herman E. Gruntmier and Harry E. Johnson) survived. Of those eight men, only one (John K. Hurst), was able to avoid capture. The last plane set down at Framlingham at 4:12 in the afternoon. Nearly half had been damaged, though apart from the loss of the Shatzi and its crew, as well as the four men from the Sequatchiee, no other casualties were reported.“ https://5085.sydneyplus.com/archive/Portal/390th.aspx?lang=en-US&p_AAAH=tab7&p_AAAJ=tab7&d=d